2018 April/May/June Update:

As you know, most of the year I publish 2 to 3 articles a day.

However, every year during convention season, I take a break from that to go full swing CosPlay.

From early April 2018 to late June 2018, article posting schedule will be sporadic, while CosPlay Season and Convention events are going full swing.

During this time period, you can expect most, possible all new articles to be focused on costume making, CosPlay, and the characters I'm CosPlaying.

UPDATE: It's now divided into 7 pages. The primary page "Meet Avallach" is now over 20,000 words long. At this rate, it'll cross 60,000 long before the costume is finished, and that's not including the other 5 pages. The primary page has now crossed 60,000 words and counting, the whole set of Avallac'h pages are now more than 200,000 words long, and more then 500 pictures of Avallac'h and his friends have now been uploaded on these pages, plus there are now 400+ hour-long videos f the costume making process as we record live, every second of this insanely elaborate, over the top CosPlay project.

As of May 19, just 29 days to PortCon we are embroidering his blue coat in a countdown against the clock to finish in time for the event, while we pray that The Dazzling Razzberry will be re-weilded back together and drivable in time for PortCon, after it's recent vandalism by Old Orchard Beach's ever growing Ku Klux Klan problem.

There will still be daily updates, but the BULK of the daily updates will be limited to the pages linked here:

  1. The Avallac'h CosPlay: Who is Avallac'h?
  2. Obsession: Meet Avallac'h
  3. [NSFW] Avallac'h & His Nude Women | Witcher 3 Game Screenshots
  4. Historical Accuracy vs Avallac'h (to go live later this summer)
  5. The Avallac'h CosPlay Costume Making Vlogs (will go live AFTER finishing the costume)
  6. How To Make The Avallac'h CosPlay (will go live AFTER PortCon)
  7. How Much Did It Cost? ($800+ will run to around $3,000) Budgeting The Avallac'h CosPlay (eing written as the costume is being made, will go live after completion of the costume)
  8. Why do children CosPlay rapists & rape victims? & WHY Avallac'h is a M18+ character. 
  9. PortConMaine 2018
  10. On Being a Handicapped CosPlayer: A Look At Events of PortConMaine 2017 That Resulted In 3 Disabled CosPlayers Getting hurt at The Convention and How These Things Could Have Been Avoided




Plot Driven vs Character Driven Stories and Idiots Who Don't Know What They Are




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Plot Driven vs Character Driven Stories and Idiots Who Don't Know What They Are

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Have you ever run into one of those people, you the type, thinks they know everything, lectures everyone about and gets it wrong, and even after 75 people in the comments tell them, they got it wrong, they still continue onward in their error?

Well that's what we have here today.

Now, the title seemed innocent enough: 

Plot and Characterization are really the same thing. Here's why and what that means for writers...

Now I can agree with the title. Plot and Characterization are more or less the same on some levels. There are differences of course, but they go hand in hand.

But you can have a plot without characters and you can have characters without plot. Uncommon, yes, but they exist.

You can have a plot without characterization.

But here's something: Characters need characterization.

The plot does not.

The plot is the map by which your characters get from point A to point B. Point A being where they are at the beginning of the story. Point B being the end goal the character reaches by the end of the story.

I can agree with the title, but not most of the rest of the OP.

Plot Driven vs Character Driven Stories and Idiots Who Don't Know What They Are

>>Plot and Characterization are really the same thing. Here's why and what that means for writers...

Now I can agree with the title. Plot and Characterization are more or less the same on some levels. There are differences of course, but they go hand in hand.

But you can have a plot without characters and you can have characters without plot. Uncommon, yes, but they exist.

You can have a plot without characterization.

But here's something: Characters need characterization.

The plot does not.

The plot is the map by which your characters get from point A to point B. Point A being where they are at the beginning of the story. Point B being the end goal the character reaches by the end of the story.

I can agree with the title, but not most of the rest of the OP.

Okay, for starters, you clearly have no clue what "Character Driven" even means, if you think a Character Driven story has ANYTHING to do with characterization at all. Characterization and Character Driven are two completely different things.

Plot driven and character driven have ACTUAL dictionary definitions that have been used by publishers for close to 200 years, and you'll be hard pressed to convince a publisher of any other definition when it comes time to get your book published and you submit a plot-driven story to a publisher that only accepts character-driven novels.

Please open a dictionary and try reading it once in a while. Here, let me do that for you. Here's what the dictionary says:

Plot = the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence; the sequence of events in a play, novel, movie, or similar work.

Characterization = the creation or construction of a fictional character; the process by which the writer reveals the personality of a character.

Characterization is something all stories require, Character Driven or otherwise.

I can't believe, you are trying to sound "smart" by saying characterization has anything to do with the concept of a Character Driven story! It's comparing apples to oranges!

all stories are plot-driven, but all plots are character-driven

An yet...

Plot driven = a story that is 75% or more narrative/description.

Character driven = a story that is 75% or more dialogue

So tell me, how can a book be BOTH 75% or more dialogue AND 75% or more narrative.

Simple answer: It can't be. And therefore, no, not according to the dictionary, no, all stories are NOT plot-driven, nore are all plots character-driven.

We are peddlers of words. Shame on any word peddler who doesn't know the definition of a word they peddle.

Character driven has NOTHING to do with characterization.

Character Driven refers to the fact the the character is FRONT & CENTRE AT ALL TIMES; the character never leaves the stage, the character is always talking, always thinking, always there, in your face. It has NOTHING to do whatsoever with the act of creating the character. You have so little clue what Character Driven means that it isn't even funny. Please try to find out the meanings of words before you start arguing something and make a fool of yourself. Good god!

How can a writer not know the difference between character driven and characterization?

Character Driven Stories are an actual STYLE of writing. A physical METHOD of laying out your manuscript on the page. It has nothing to do with creating the character aka characterization.

And THIS, btw IS a Character Driven, plotless story, it's called Slice of Life and is an actual genre. Look it up.

>>I've also seen passages, especially in literary fiction, of a character thinking about who they are and about their problems for pages on end without doing anything. These scenes don't work, either, as they try to trick the reader into thinking characterization is happening. Again, it might LOOK like that, but there still isn't a polarity shift and the character isn't doing anything. A scene that only delivers info is not a scene.

Stories without plots, do EXACTLY this. They focus fully, 100% on the character and the character only. It is possible to have an entire novel, be nothing more then the 100 page monologue of a character, while he sits on a bench waiting for the bus and the entire novel be only 10 minutes of his life.

The very fact that you pointed this style out, proves you know NOTHING about writing the Character Driven or Slice of Life genres.

Do you know why you see those types of scenes in Literary (which can't even bother with grammar rules enough to bother capitalizing)? Because they are actual genres. A Character Driven Story is a type of genre with-in Literary Fiction. Slice of Life is a genre within Literary Fiction. Plot Driven Story is a genre within Literary Fiction.

A Plot Driven story, btw, has no characters, and is very simply a travelogue style description of a place. Edgar Allan Poe's "The Landscape Garden" is a prime example of what a Plot Driven Story is written like. Go read it. Maybe you'll learn something.

>>I've seen numerous posts and comments on the sub debating the importance and differences of plot-driven vs. character-driven writing.

Anyone who tries to debate such nonsense is an absolute idiot who never took the time to open up damned dictionary. Really, people want to argue with a dictionary on what a word means? There's nothing to argue about. It's a simple open and shut case. Open the book, and there's the answer in plain black and white. What the hell is there to argue about?

I mean you can try to change Webster's dictionary and the literal meanings of words to fit your theories all you want, but, when push comes to shove, a publisher who asks for plot driven or character driven stories is gonna go with Daniel Webster and not some college professor's hypothesis.

Sure, you can print up your instructor's little lecture and send it to the publisher along with your manuscript, to say "See? This is what he says it means." But the publisher is still gonna give you a nice fat rejection slip for not following the ACTUAL guidelines of the ACTUAL publishing industry.

Sorry to have to burst your bubble, but, you really don't know what you're talking about. Words have meanings. We as professionals in our careers, should know that. And if you don't know the dictionary definitions of the vocabulary of your own career, you are letting your unprofessional amateurism show in front of publishers and editors who DO know what words mean and are thinking you might be in the wrong career if you're too arrogant to open a dictionary.

Wither or not a story is character-driven or plot-driven is ONLY important, if you are aiming to be published by a publisher who specifies they want that. If you're not aiming at a publisher who specifies that's what they are looking for then, you've nothing to worry about. Just write your damned novel. If someone is looking into writing plot-driven or character-driven stories it's probably because they have a specific publisher in mind that they want to work with and none of your business to criticize them for trying to learn more about the style. In fact, you bitching about it makes you come off as an arrogant bully looking to start a fight. I mean, if you are not looking to write either style to begin with, then why the heck are you fussing over it? Seems a rather pointless thing to worry about, to me. If people are looking to write that style, then let them. They aren't bothering you.

Very few novels are either one or the other. A story that is PURELY plot driven or PURELY character driven is unusual and you'll know it when you see one. They stick out like a sore thumb. Most novels are in fact a pretty even 50/50 split between narrative and dialogue.

Plot-driven and character-driven, the actual terms, when actually used correctly, are two very distinctive writing styles within the Literary Fiction genre. So, if you are writing genre fiction, you're not going to need to worry about these things at all.

>>It's just exposition rendered in dialogue to try to trick the reader into finding it interesting. 

Trick the reader into finding something interesting? You show me the author who goes out of their way to deceive the reader intentional and kick 'em in the balls. WTH? What type of a person thinks authors do that?

Clearly you have just gotten off reading a book that twisted your panties and now you feel the need to rant about it, but wow! Accusing authors of tricking their readers into finding things interesting? Damn. All those millions of screaming fan girls on the planet, who don't know all their favorite authors just tricked them into being interested in their favorite character.

I find it utterly ridiculous when children try to make themselves sound big by bickering online the meanings of things, they know nothing about.

The fact remains, ALL fiction has both plot and character, and that has nothing to do with the genres called a Plot-Driven story and a Character-Driven story which are very distinctive and specific sub-genres within Literary Fiction, no different then how Paranormal Romance and Historical Romance are two sub-genres within the Romance genre.

Now I agree characterization is a requirement, and plots are usually necessary. But statements like:

>>Every scene needs to advance them both simultaneously.

Who died and made you god?

Since when is this a requirement? Do you even read?

You know who you need to read? Charles Dickens. You might have hear of him. He's a classic that a lot of authors strive to be like. Known for his Character Driven classic: A Christmas Carol and his Plot Driven slog: A Tale of Two Cities. Read both. You'll fast see the difference between a dialogue prance in the park, and a narrative ridden drag through the mud. You can follow Scrooge quickly through his past, present, and future. or you can read 24 pages straight describing the ripples of the water as it slooooooowly flows under the bridge. A Christmas Carol is a perfect example of a Character Driven Story while A Tale of Two Cities is a perfect example of a Plot Driven story.

But neither of them meet your requirement of *"Every scene needs to advance them both simultaneously."*

>>You'll notice if you really focus on the polarity shifts, you'll get to know your characters faster and more deeply, which will make seeing their arcs easier, as well. 

Really? I don't think so. How about this. When you climb down off your high horse, here's a 28,000 word character profile for you to read

... yes a 60 page charter bio.... I've never written a character arch in my life, but in the past 40 years I have written 130 novels and 2,000 short stories about that one character and defy you to find an author that knows their character better than I know him.

Here have two more...

If you want readers to see your characters as real people... create characters who act like real people. There's no hidden formula to creating characters.

SOURCE: I'm a published writing instructor; I have a degree in English Literature; I am an editor of 2 Literary magazines that focus specifically on Character Driven Stories; and I'm the author of 130+ novels, 2,000+ short stories, 30+ non-fiction books, a few dozen stage plays, and a few comic book scripts Disney's Uncle Scrooge and Donald Duck.

I'm famous for writing novels that are 100% Character Driven, meaning 100% dialogue, no narrative, no description, at all, with no plot anywhere in sight, full on straight up dialogue, that has no purpose whatsoever.




So, I was over on Reddit, you like I often am, and found this question. And answered it, like I do. However, the answer I initially gave was a simple generic answer. If you want to read my original answer unaltered, simply click on Reddit's embed feature links which Reddit provides for webmasters to be able to post their answers on their websites, while linking back to the original thread on Reddit (if you didn't know Reddit offered and encouraged the use of this feature, look for it in the "share" features underneath every post, comment, and reply on Reddit).

I am answering random questions today about world building, over on Reddit and decided to take my answers from there and expand upon them even further over here. So that's what this page is. Me rambling on about various aspects of world building techniques I use when writing the Quaraun series. The questions I am answering are embedded here. Clicking the link in the embedded question will take you to the original Reddit page where you can see the original answer along with other people's answers. If you wish to comment, you can do so on the Reddit page where a place to do so is provided.

In any case, as with all of my Reddit answers found on my site here, my original post on Reddit is much shorter then the article here.


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