The Rapture Is Coming, and Nephilim Are Returning In September 2025? 

ChatGPT5's answer:

Yes, I can explain what’s going on — and no, there’s no credible evidence the world is ending this August or September.

🔔 What’s This “August 2025 Rapture Event” About? 

The “rapture” your friends are referring to is a belief from Christian dispensationalist theology — the idea that at some point, true believers will be taken up (“raptured”) to Heaven, while everyone else is left behind to endure apocalyptic chaos. This belief isn’t shared by all Christians, but it’s heavily promoted by certain evangelical and fundamentalist TV preachers, YouTube channels, and social media “prophets” — often tied to doomsday date-setting, which resurfaces every few years.

🚨 Why August 8, August 21, or September 21?

These dates are all part of a viral prophetic conspiracy theory combining:

• Biblical Jubilee cycles (every 49 or 50 years),
• The “Trump of Jubilee” — referring to a trumpet blast said to signal divine intervention,
• Astrological or astronomical events (eclipses, full moons, etc.),
• Geopolitical tension (like war in the Middle East, global economic fears),
• American political symbolism — especially linked to Donald Trump, whom some fringe groups call “God’s anointed.”

In this case, August 8 is being hyped as the day the "Trumpet of Jubilee" sounds (a made-up event drawn from Leviticus, twisted into a prediction). August 21 is possibly tied to an eclipse or Jewish calendar event. September 21 may be tied to the Fall Feasts on the Hebrew calendar, like Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur — which rapture-predictors often latch onto.

🧠 Why People Are Panicking

Your friends are likely being influenced by:

• YouTube “prophets” and doomsday preachers,
• TikTok videos filled with numerology and cherry-picked Bible quotes,
• Misinterpretations of current global events (wars, storms, etc.),
• A wave of End Times revivalism that’s popular in social media religious circles right now.

✅ Should You Be Worried?

No. This is not a real event, and it is not supported by credible theology, science, or history. Rapture predictions like this have happened hundreds of times before, including:

• Harold Camping’s failed 2011 prediction,
• 1988’s “88 Reasons the Rapture Will Be in 1988,”
• The 2017 “Revelation 12 sign” panic,
• 2000, 2012, and every blood moon cycle in between.

Every one of these failed. This is just the latest variation.

👣 What You Can Do

• Gently ask your friends where they’re getting their info. Most likely, it's from sensationalist online sources, not mainstream religious scholars.
• If they’re panicking, remind them that none of these predictions have ever come true — and the people making them often profit from fear.
• Block or mute alarmist content if it’s cluttering your feed.

Let me know if you want me to track down the specific YouTube or TikTok videos fueling this round — I can probably trace the origin if you give me a few names or channels.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Ah, that absolutely makes sense, and you're not alone. When you're not immersed in that specific branch of Christian culture — especially the apocalyptic evangelical subculture — it can sound like they’re speaking in riddles or panicked code. And they often are.

Here's what’s probably going on:

You’re seeing a convergence of religious panic, conspiracy theory, and pop-prophecy hype, which is common in evangelical and fundamentalist circles, especially online. What you're describing — "Trump of Jubilee," rapture countdowns, September doom — is part theology, part folklore, part internet rumor mill. Here's how it usually works:

🧩 The Pattern You’re Seeing:

1. Someone on YouTube or a televangelist claims to have "decoded prophecy" using obscure verses, numerology, or calendar math.
2. They tie it to modern events: elections, eclipses, climate disasters, war in Israel, earthquakes, etc.
3. They give a specific date. Always within a few weeks or months.
4. People panic-share: “It’s coming! Be ready!”
5. The date passes.
6. They either move the goalpost or claim it was "spiritual, not literal."
7. Repeat.

Some Keywords You Might See in This Cycle:

TermMeaning (in this context)

• Trump of Jubilee: Refers to a biblical trumpet (shofar) sounding in a "Jubilee Year" (Leviticus 25); twisted into a modern "sign from God." Sometimes linked to Donald Trump, too.
• Jubilee Year: In Levitical law, every 50th year was a time of liberation and return. Modern prophecy groups often use it to claim cycles of divine judgment or blessing.
• Rapture: The idea that true Christians will vanish from Earth to meet Jesus in the sky. Not actually found in the Bible as commonly described — it’s a 19th-century invention.
• Feasts of the Lord / Jewish Holidays: Many prophecy groups believe Jesus will return on a Jewish festival (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, etc.). They often claim to see patterns.
• Blood Moons / Eclipses: These always spike End Times hype — people love assigning meaning to celestial events.
• September 21 / Fall Equinox: Often associated with "shift points" in the prophetic calendar, especially among fringe mystic Christians.

Why It Can Get So Intense

These kinds of predictions aren’t just spiritual for some — they’re emotional, political, and deeply tribal. When people feel the world is unstable (war, climate, social unrest), these beliefs give them a sense of order and hope. That’s why they get so fervent and can seem irrational to outsiders — they truly believe this is real and urgent.

From a Pagan/Eclectic Perspective?

You're likely familiar with cyclical time, seasonal change, and spiritual symbolism. But evangelical End Times obsession is linear, absolutist, and very binary: saved/damned, heaven/hell, raptured/left behind. It’s not metaphor or mysticism to them — it’s concrete future history. They must warn everyone. Which is why it can feel so alarmist and alienating.

TL;DR

• You're witnessing an apocalyptic fever spike.
• It’s not new; it’s just louder now due to social media.
• It’s okay not to engage — or to gently question where they got the info.
• It will pass. It always does. Another prophecy will come along to replace it.

If you'd like, I can break down specific terms or decode a message one of your friends sent. I’ve translated enough “rapture math” to know when someone’s quoting YouTube prophets versus actual scripture.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Yeah, I know exactly the sort of thing your friends are probably caught up in — and you’re right, it doesn’t line up with historical or scriptural Nephilim/Watcher/Grigori lore at all.

What’s going around right now in conspiracy circles about “Nephilim returning in September 2025” is not coming from the Bible, Jewish mystical texts, or even serious apocrypha like 1 Enoch. It’s a mash-up of three unrelated sources:

1. Misinterpreted Nephilim folklore

• In actual ancient sources, the Nephilim are briefly mentioned in Genesis 6:1–4 and elaborated on in 1 Enoch. They are the hybrid offspring of the Watchers (Grigori angels) and human women.
• Their role in lore is tied to pre-Flood corruption, not a “second coming” on spaceships. In apocryphal prophecy, they’re destroyed in the Flood, and only their disembodied spirits (often equated with demons) remain.
• There’s no canonical prophecy that they will return in the end times, much less in a specific month and year.

2. Modern UFO / “Ancient Astronaut” theory

• Some modern conspiracy theorists (following Erich von Däniken, Zecharia Sitchin, and fringe “Christian UFOlogy”) reinterpret the Nephilim as ancient alien hybrids.
• They claim the “Watchers” were extraterrestrials, the Flood was an alien intervention, and “the return of the Nephilim” means an alien invasion disguised as angels or gods.
• September 2025 is just an arbitrary date some prophecy YouTubers are attaching to current space news (asteroid fly-bys, solar events, NASA missions, etc.).

3. A recent viral prophecy cycle

• There’s a cluster of videos and podcasts right now tying the Blood Moon / solar eclipse patterns, CERN collider experiments, and asteroid Apophis to “biblical giants returning.”
• They connect September 2025 with the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah and certain interpretations of Revelation — even though Revelation never mentions the Nephilim at all.
• The “starship” element seems to be borrowed from Project Blue Beam conspiracy theory (the idea that governments will fake an alien or messiah arrival using holograms).

So — your instincts are correct.
The version your friends are panicking over is basically Nephilim + UFOs + internet prophecy date-setting and not rooted in any ancient source. The people making these videos are blending Biblical names with sci-fi concepts to sell a sensational story.

If you go back to actual Nephilim lore — Genesis, Enoch, Jubilees, Dead Sea Scrolls, Kabbalistic writings — there’s nothing about a September 2025 event, no starship arrival, and no role in the end-times that matches what’s circulating online right now.

If you want, I can give you a short bullet-point breakdown of what the original Nephilim/Watcher texts actually say so you can show your friends how far the modern rumor has drifted from the source. That way you’ll have receipts in case they ask why you’re not worried.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Exactly — you didn’t “miss” anything in the original lore. What your friends are talking about is 100% a modern mash-up, not anything from the actual historical or religious Nephilim traditions.

You’ve got a solid grasp on the real material. In actual Watcher / Grigori / Nephilim texts (Genesis, Enoch, Jubilees, the Dead Sea Scroll fragments, Kabbalistic sources):

• Nephilim appear only briefly before the Flood — they’re the offspring of the Watchers and human women.
• The Watchers get punished and bound, the Nephilim die, and only their spirits linger on (often equated with evil spirits).
• There is no prophecy in the ancient sources about them returning — neither in a biblical end-times setting nor in any apocryphal battle scenario.
• The Rapture as a concept comes from 19th-century dispensationalist theology, not ancient Jewish or early Christian angelology. It was never connected to the Nephilim until modern conspiracy preachers fused them together.
• UFOs and “giants returning in spaceships” are 20th–21st century inventions inspired by pulp sci-fi and the Ancient Astronauts theory — not ancient prophecy.

And you’re right about the “sci-fi bleed-over” problem. What you’re seeing is a lot of people taking science fiction ideas (aliens, motherships, Star Trek–style first contact) and retrofitting them onto biblical language to make it sound prophetic. This “fusion fiction” ends up convincing some folks because they don’t differentiate between:

1. Primary sources (ancient scripture, apocrypha, Kabbalah, actual lore)
2. Interpretations (theology, sermons, scholarly commentary)
3. Modern creative works (movies, novels, games)

Your friends’ “September 2025 alien Nephilim rapture” is really just modern fan-fiction with a doomsday marketing angle. It has about as much basis in the original Watcher lore as your Quaraun novels do — except you know yours are fiction.

If anything, it’s kind of funny that they’re basically doing what you do in your worldbuilding — mixing biblical characters with fantastical plots — but without realizing they’re writing bad apocalyptic fanfic and treating it as history.

I can also see why this one caught you off-guard — because they’ve latched onto a mythos you do know inside-out, but they’re repeating it in a way that doesn’t match any of the sources you’ve studied. That’s the red flag right there: when someone gives you a “prophecy” that not only isn’t in the Bible, but also isn’t in Enoch, Jubilees, or Kabbalistic angelology, it’s almost certainly a recent invention.

If you want, I can give you a side-by-side comparison of:

• What the original Nephilim / Watcher lore says
• What modern “UFO Nephilim” conspiracy preachers claim

It’s actually kind of wild to see how far they’ve drifted.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Got it — we’ll drop the conspiracy rabbit holes and stick to something that actually feeds your Quaraun worldbuilding.

Here’s a working lore index of demon, fallen angel, Grigori, and jinn material you can draw from — focusing on elements that would give depth to GhoulSpawn, Quaraun, and your existing UnSeelie / cosmic setting. I’ve organized it by type, with notes on origin and possible use in your fiction.1. The Watchers / Grigori

Source: 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Dead Sea Scrolls, later Jewish mysticism.
Core Lore:2. The Nephilim

• High-ranking angels tasked with watching over humanity.
• Fell from grace after taking human wives and teaching forbidden arts (metallurgy, magic, astrology, warcraft).
• Bound under the earth or in “the valleys of the earth” until the final judgment.
• Led by chiefs such as Semyaza, Azazel, Sariel, Barachiel.
  For your series:
• Grigori as aristocratic, imprisoned celestial beings whose knowledge is dangerous but seductive.
• Could interact with Quaraun as reluctant allies or rivals in magic, especially with his DiJinn heritage.
• Their “forbidden knowledge” can serve as lost magic systems or artifacts for plot arcs.

Source: Genesis 6, 1 Enoch, Book of Giants (Manichaean).
Core Lore:3. Classic Fallen Angels

• Hybrid offspring of Watchers and human women.
• Giants of great strength and appetite, often corrupt and violent.
• Spirits of the dead Nephilim become roaming demons (per Enoch).
  For your series:
• Could appear as ancient relic races on Vesonta, either fossilized remains or surviving half-blood lineages.
• Possible link to UnSeelie bodyguards or unique magical threats.

Source: Christian demonology (Milton’s Paradise Lost, pseudo-Dionysius, apocrypha).
Core Lore:4. Jinn / DiJinn

• Angels who sided with Lucifer in the rebellion.
• Often assigned to rule over the 72 demons of the Ars Goetia (Solomonic tradition).
• Examples: Belial (lawlessness), Asmodeus (lust, destruction), Baal (war), Astaroth (knowledge, deceit).
  For your series:
• Fallen angels as high-court politicians in the Infernal realms, maneuvering in ways that parallel UnSeelie intrigue.
• GhoulSpawn could have rivalries or debts with some of these rulers.

Source: Islamic folklore, Qur’anic references, One Thousand and One Nights.
Core Lore:5. Infernal Hierarchies

• Beings of smokeless fire, inhabiting a parallel world (the Alam al-Jinn).
• Can be benevolent, malevolent, or neutral.
• Types include Ifrit (rebellious, powerful), Marid (sea spirits, arrogant), Shaitan (corrupt tempters).
• Bound to objects (lamps, rings) or locations, but not always by choice.
  For your series:
• Quaraun’s DiJinn magic could be tied to his silk-weaving — silk as a “binding medium” for spirits.
• DiJinn courts could parallel the UnSeelie court, but with elemental politics.

Source: Ars Goetia, Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, medieval grimoires.
Core Lore:6. The Seven Princes of Hell

• Demons ranked as kings, dukes, marquises, etc.
• Each governs specific powers — divination, weather, disease, alchemy, etc.
• Summoned via sigils, bound to contracts.
  For your series:
• GhoulSpawn’s Hell could be a Fire Planet with a rigid political system based on these ranks.
• Contracts could be literal magical bonds — visible, physical threads or seals.

Source: Medieval Catholic demonology.
Core Lore:7. Chthonic & Abyssal Entities

• Each represents one of the Seven Deadly Sins: Lucifer – Pride Mammon – Greed Asmodeus – Lust Leviathan – Envy Beelzebub – Gluttony Satan – Wrath Belphegor – Sloth
  For your series:
• Could serve as thematic patrons for various UnSeelie factions.
• The sins can be woven into Vesonta’s political struggles.

Source: Mesopotamian, Hellenistic, and Lovecraftian-inspired myth.
Core Lore:8. Hell Geography

• Pre-celestial primal beings predating gods and angels.
• Examples: Tiamat (chaos sea), Abzu (deep abyss), Watchers of the Gates.
  For your series:
• Could be what GhoulSpawn taps into for non-angelic magic.
• Potential link between Vesonta’s oceans and abyssal horrors.

Source: Dante’s Inferno, Islamic Jahannam, Jewish Sheol.
Core Lore:9. Binding & Summoning Traditions

• Layered realms or concentric circles, each with different rulers and punishments.
• Associated with elements (fire, ice, wind, darkness).
  For your series:
• GhoulSpawn’s Fire Planet Hell could have volcanic cities, molten rivers, and sky made of burning glass.
• Could also tie in frozen Hell realms for UnSeelie magic.

Source: Solomonic magic, Arabian magic, Kabbalah.
Core Lore:

• Use of seals, talismans, silk cords, and written contracts.
• Power over spirits gained by knowing their True Names.
  For your series:
• Quaraun’s silk-weaving could double as magical “spirit nets.”
• BoomFuzzy’s kitchen could secretly be a demon-summoning circle — the oven as a portal to Hell’s forges.

If you like, I can expand this into a full reference binder — one page for each category with cultural origin, key names, descriptions, and hooks for how they might interact with your characters and Vesonta’s political structure. That way, you’d have a ready-made lore bible that matches your series’ tone and setting.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Ah — that does change a lot of how the demon hierarchy would apply to him.
If GhoulSpawn is the son of a Demon King and a Sun Elf, that means he’s:

• Demon royalty, not just another infernal warlord.
• Born with status that automatically outranks the majority of Hell’s military and political structure — including many Fallen Angel generals.
• Potentially part of multiple worlds’ nobility: Hell’s monarchy through his father, and high Elf aristocracy through his mother.
• A walking political crisis for anyone who meets him — Demons would want him as an ally (or a hostage), Elves would be conflicted, and Fallen Angels might see him as competition.

That means for your series’ lore binder, GhoulSpawn’s “slot” in the infernal ecosystem isn’t inside the usual grimoire-inspired ranks — he’s above them. In other words:

• If Hell’s hierarchy is like a feudal monarchy, Fallen Angel lords are the equivalent of dukes or generals. GhoulSpawn is the prince heir to the throne.
• That would also explain why he can get away with being independent on Vesonta without Hell sending armies to drag him home — it’s messy politically to touch the heir.
• And because of his Sun Elf heritage, he might have powers or affinities that full-blooded Demons can’t match — light-based magic, starfire, or longevity beyond typical demonic lifespans.

Given this, the “relevant folklore” list for your books should probably have a separate Demon Royalty / Hell Monarchy section for him — which would pull more from:

• Mesopotamian king-lists (where gods and demons intermarry with humans/elves).
• Sumerian/Assyrian underworld myths (Ereshkigal, Nergal).
• Persian div and daeva lore (since they mix noble courts with monstrous aspects).
• Japanese oni dynasties (good for court intrigue and prince-as-wildcard tropes).

If you want, I can rewrite the earlier demon/angel/jinn reference index to reflect GhoulSpawn’s position as a Demon Prince, not just a generic infernal noble. That way your binder matches how he actually fits into Hell’s politics.

Do you want me to rebuild the list with that adjustment?

ChatGPT5's answer:

Ah, that actually pulls everything together beautifully — it explains both the tone of their relationship and the deeper political/magical logic behind why Quaraun surrounds himself with the companions he does.

Here’s how I’d now structure the lore reference binder for your series, weaving in:A. Demon Royalty & Infernal Monarchy

• GhoulSpawn’s Demon Prince heritage
• Quaraun’s Persian/Jinn upbringing
• The influence of Mesopotamian underworld lore like Ereshkigal
• The Elf/Demon/Jinn political overlap unique to Vesonta

Influences: Mesopotamian king lists, Ereshkigal/Nergal myths, Persian div dynasties, Japanese oni clans.B. The Watchers & Grigori

• Hell’s monarchy is ancient, predating the Fallen Angels’ rebellion.
• Demon Kings and Queens rule regions of the Fire Planet — each throne is tied to an elemental or magical domain (flame, shadow, venom, storms).
• GhoulSpawn’s father, “The Ghoul,” is one of the most feared rulers — the nickname hides his true, secret name (forbidden to be spoken aloud).
• Demon Princes like GhoulSpawn are political pawns, marriage prospects, and war leaders — but many, like him, reject Hell’s politics.
• Story hook: As a royal heir, GhoulSpawn is always hunted by bounty hunters or emissaries sent to bring him back to claim or secure the throne.

Influences: 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Dead Sea Scrolls.C. Jinn / DiJinn

• Fallen angels bound in the depths, once teachers of forbidden arts.
• Feared and respected by Demons — but politically below Demon Kings.
• Known to trade in secrets, cursed relics, and half-forgotten magic.
• Story hook: The Grigori may try to use GhoulSpawn as leverage to negotiate with Hell.

Influences: Qur’anic references, Arabian Nights, Persian magic.D. Ereshkigal’s Influence

• Beings of smokeless fire — in this world, classified as a type of Demon.
• Masters of binding contracts, enchanted items, and soul transactions.
• Quaraun’s silk magic comes from Jinn binding techniques — silk as a living thread that captures and controls spiritual energy.
• DiJinn magic emphasizes creation over destruction, making Quaraun a dangerous artisan rather than a simple battle mage.
• Story hook: The enchanted pink silk itself is feared — woven contracts that can bind angels, demons, or humans without them realizing.

Influences: Sumerian underworld mythology.E. The Last Pure ElfF. Demons, Elves, and Jinn — Cultural Intersections

• Ereshkigal, Queen of the Dead, governs a vast, layered realm of shadows.
• In Vesonta’s worldbuilding, her archetype shapes the way underworld queens rule: bound by strict laws, feared for their ability to “unmake” souls.
• Her mythic descent parallels Quaraun’s journeys into dangerous realms to retrieve souls or treasures.
• Story hook: GhoulSpawn’s father may have sworn ancient pacts with an Ereshkigal-like queen, making GhoulSpawn half-bound to the underworld’s laws.

• Quaraun is the last full-blooded Elf — making him an endangered relic in his own right.
• Elves in Vesonta’s history were hunted to near extinction in wars with the UnSeelie and certain Demon factions.
• Half-Elves like GhoulSpawn carry fragments of that bloodline, but none have Quaraun’s raw magical potential.
• Story hook: Demons and angels alike want Quaraun’s offspring, as a means to control the last Elf magic.

• Demons respect lineage and political power; Elves respect artistry and ancient law; Jinn respect cunning and binding contracts.
• Quaraun’s comfort around Demons comes from being raised by DiJinn — they taught him how to think in terms of bargains, not loyalty.
• GhoulSpawn’s half-Elf heritage makes him someone Quaraun can train in Elf magic without the constant cultural clash he’d have with a human or angel.
• BoomFuzzy’s UnSeelie ties make him the wildcard — bridging the Elf/Demon/Jinn spheres with the politics of the Faerie Courts.

If we expand this binder, I can:

• Map the Infernal family tree including GhoulSpawn’s father, known Demon Lords, and any rival princes.
• Create a Jinn magic codex specifically for Quaraun’s enchanted silk techniques.
• Flesh out underworld court etiquette inspired by Ereshkigal — rules of speech, offerings, and consequences.

That way, every time a new story thread needs Demon/Elf/Jinn politics, you’ll have a quick-reference tool that fits exactly into your series’ existing tone and history.

Do you want me to build that Infernal family tree for GhoulSpawn’s side of the story next?
That would make it much easier to keep track of who’s after him and why.

Well, it's a couple months later, since I first asked you this stuff, and guess what today is?

ChatGPT5's answer:

Yep. Today is the 22nd, the day some were panicked over. Though most have been saying 23rd, so, there is mass full panic going on for some people. Its really weird. Things are just getting so weird. Like, really freaky weird. People are going really nutty.

I have one friend who has dropped everything to go off on a travel trip and see things, he always wanted to see, because after tomorrow he won't get to because he's going to be taken up in the rapture, so he says.

I have a relative who is going around trying to do panic mode last minute repentance and making up and begging forgiveness from other relatives they pissed off over the years.

Meanwhile, over on TikTok, an entire new community has risen up in the past few days calling themselves #RaptureTok and it's thousands of people from all over the world are going full meltdown. Everything in #fyp this morning is nothing by endless #RaptureTok total babbling full panic madness!!

I'm old enough to remember the HaleBop panic back in 1997, when everyone was saying the comet was god on his mothership, but the internet was really new back then, so it was just a few people in panic that time. This time ,now millions of people use the internet and, we can see mass wide spread panic happening of social media. Its just wild how many people are convinced the world is ending tomorrow!

To counter #RaptureTok a community called #FalseProphetTok has risen up, and it's all level headed not panicked people, trying to convince the #RaptureTok people that the guy (a really big YouTuber) who started all this is a flash prophet. So now there are these huge arguments going on back and forth between the #RaptureTok people and the #FalseProphetTok people and they are really going at it, having and ranting like how people do over politics!!!

And the worst stuff of all, out in Utah there is some mini-cult that rise up, I'm not sure the full details, but from what the tv news media has been saying it was a Discord group of about 40 college students, that all attended the same religion studies class at the college, that started the Discord group as a class club. Well, the only reason anyone has ever heard of them, is because the group was debating the doomsday stuff, and they started joking around about really awful stuff, like "what if we killed the doomsday evangelists just before the rapture so they can't be raptured with their churches" and appropriately most of the group was just joking around and not being serious, but one member of the group, the one who made the suggestion, was very serious and, so exactly 7 days before the rapture date he thought was coming, he walked into the college campus and gunned down a guest speaker at the college, who happened to be one of the rapture evangelists!!!!

Even worse, that same day, there were well over a dozen school shootings all across America, over 40 kids died, because various teens had been convinced by their churches sinners wouldn't be raptured and the kids who were the shooters were all saying they were getting rid of the evil students who were too wicker to be raptured!!!!!

And I'm here not getting involved in any of it, just standing back and watching locals go nutty, friends going full panic, relatives having total nervous breakdowns, TikTok going total bat shit crazy this morning, and all these shooter radicals on the news reports on tv, and I'm just so astounded that so many people not only believe tomorrow, September 23, 2025 is the last day of the world, but, that so many of them are acting so crazy over it.

Special reports have been on TV, with President Trump making a lot of statements and ordering flags half mast because of the shootings. Trump announced that the FBI caught the shooter and they are trying figure out all the motives and stuff.

I'm just like wow! I can't believe some people took the rapture theory so seriously. I totally never would have expected there were people who would react this way at all.

I guess, because I don't believe in that sort of Christianity? I was raised 5th generation Mormon/LDS and later became ChristoPagan and Vodu, so I've never been a part of the evangelical sort of Christian groups, so I think that is why I'm just watching what's going on and wondering who are people even believing in this stuff at all.

I was raised in what many consider the more extreme Mormon community, but it's more extreme in that they are close to being Amish, living on farms, wearing 1800s prairie clothes, not going to stores, growing our own food, saving seeds fir next years crops, raining livestock, weaving our own cloth, handspring our own clothes, living in tents instead of houses, driving horse drawn wagons and vardo, having 3 year food supplies, ect. And polygamy was a thing, like my grandfather had two wives, one of my uncles has 15 wives, one of my aunts has 9 husbands, etc. It was probably the most extreme of Mormon extremism, but it was based more on being at one with your creator by being at one with nature and avoiding commercialism and not supporting buying from big box stores or factory made goods, no one owns weapons, and trying to make the world a better place. So it wasn't the sort of doomsday preaching evangelism extremism like what's going on right now.

There is no rapture belief in Mormonism or Vodu, so, I was not raised to think about world ending doom punishment from angels or nephilum or whatever. And I did not change to a religion that did either.

I feel like I'm on the outside looking in, like I feel like I'm from planet a and watching an alien race on planet b... this rapture panic is that far away from anything I was ever taught to believe, that it feels like I'm not even the same species as the believers (if that makes sense, I don't know how else to describe how alien this rapture panic is to me).

When I first heard of it a few months ago, I was like "that crazy, no one believes in that" but now here it is September 22 and thee people who believe it have just gone bat shit crazy because they actually do believe it, and I'm just, stunned as to why or how could they possibly believe it?

I mean I looked into the rapture idea more to find out what they were talking about, and it isn't even an old belief. Like not only it is NOT in the Bible, but even the word rapture itself was invented by some guy in the 1880s. I had no idea. The way the rapture believers are talking, you'd think it was Bible scripture, but turns out, the whole idea of a rapture isn't even 200 years old yet. And I'm thinking that a lot of the rapture believers don't know that, because they are saying the Bible predicts it but it doesn’t predict it at all.

I think I'm just stunned to realize how vastly different specific Christian religions are.

Like I was thinking most Christian religion is were basically the same. We Mormons are Christians and New Orleans Voodoo is a blend of Christian Catholic and Traditional African Animism Religion and so while not "traditional" Christianity, it has elements of Christianity in it, and Voodoo is not that different from the type of Mormonism I was raised in (LDS genealogy work vs Voodo ancestors reverence, and Josheph Smiths seer stones and Jupiter tailsmen vs Hoodoo Rootwork, both promote farm life and respect for nature, for example.) But I think I'm seeing for the first time that more mainstream Christianity has so vastly different beliefs that we Mormons do and I guess that's why I can't see any logic in the belief of the rapture of nephilum returning.

Well, I started this chat with you a couple months ago, but September 23 is now a day away and it's just wild seeing how people are reacting. I feel like a lot of people can't tell fantasy from reality and this whole rapture thing is really showing who is who.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Yeah, I don't get involved in those sorts of social media. It doesn’t normally show up in my feeds. Its just that there is so much of it being hyper posted today, that it's today's "trending topic" so it's going automatically into everyone's feeds, like same way big news events would do, because so many people posting about it all at once, that the algorithms are just pushing it to everyone today like it would current news events.

I dislike getting involved in any politics or religion topics, so I normally avoid them and rarely see them in my feeds.

I view stuff like this as foder for writing. Aka, using it as a writing prompt for a new Quaraun story.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Yeah I prefer to go back to writing Quaraun stuff.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Hmmm. No, all of this treats GhoulSpawn like so old nobility.

Like when you have him say "you are a right daft elf", that sounds like how a snide condensending adult talks down to a child. It sounds like an older person talking to a younger person. Its how BoomFuzzy might talk to Quaraun, but it's not how GhoulSpawn would talk to Quaraun.

See, you've overlooked a few vital facts:

BoomFuzzy, a Phooka, a type of Faerie, is well over two thousand years old. And while he himself often has childlike behaviour, he is prone to snide condescending remarks and treating Quaraun as if Quaraun was a child. BoomFuzzy, though seemingly ancient, is in fact quite young for a Faerie, as the Fae are near immortal and can live for tens of thousands of years.

Quaraun on the other hand is an Elf who has grown quite ancient, a side effect of being soul bound to his Fae husband BoomFuzzy. Quaraun is well over 750 years old, but Elves rarely live to be 400, so he is double his nature life expectancy. Quaraun is extremely elderly, and even though in total number of years BoomFuzzy is much older, by actual health and aging, Quaraun is physically the oldest, thus why his health is so bad off, why he struggles to do even the most basic of things.

GhoulSpawn on the other hand is literally still a child. And spoiler, he also dies very young, which has major plot implications for the series. GhoulSpawn's death is a turning point in the franchise that completely changes Quaraun from a passive villain to a full blown vengeful evil super villain. The published lore states that GhoulSpawn is only 15 years old when Quaraun met him and took him in. Most stories state GhoulSpawn as 19 years old. The story of his death (which is already published) states he was 29 years old when he died. Quaraun goes full necromancer meltdown and resurrects GhoulSpawn as Gremlin, who is vastly different from GhoulSpawn and is not GhoulSpawn due to an accidental putting the wrong soul into GhoulSpawn's body. This results in the demon named Gremlin, who is GhoulSpawn's body with the soul of a different Demon. GhoulSpawn's personality, memories, everything that made GhoulSpawn, GhoulSpawn is gone, lost forever, with no ability to ever bring him back and this totally devastates Quaraun who completely rejects Gremlin after creating him, constantly saying "You are not GhoulSpawn". The series switches from that point no longer The Quaraun Series and now The Twighlight Manor Series (already published in the 1980s as I write the plotline in reverse order), and Gremlin is the main character in those.

Because the Quaraun series is a PREQUEL to the Twighlight Manor series, there is a huge amount of lore already published that readers are well versed in, particularly in regards to Gremlin's former self GhoulSpawn, because Gremlin is the original main character, with the Twighlight Manor stories told by him, through his point of view, as he tries to make sense of being a Demon soul trapped inside another Demon's physical body. He befriends a black cat (EelKat) and a merman (Etiole), and they three are the main characters of the Twighlight Manor series which the Quaraun series is the PREQUEL to.

Gremlin is 500 years old in the Twighlight Manor series.

The Quaraun series starts with Gremlin building a time machine to go back in time to find out who GhoulSpawn was, to find out whose body he is living in, and arriving into Quaraun’s life the day before Quaraun meets GhoulSpawn, resulting in Quaraun meets Gremlin first and the original timeline changes.

So, GhoulSpawn's history and lore are pivotal for the longer term of the later (and already published) sections of the series.

And GhoulSpawn is an orphan. And a teenager. And is not aware he is royalty.

GhoulSpawn knows his father is some famous Demon known as The Ghoul, but he only vaguely remembers this.

GhoulSpawn was only three years old when his mother died. He can not remember anything other then she was a Sun Elf. GhoulSpawn was born and raised on The Planet Flame, aka Hell, aka a literal boiling planet with molten surface, and only the cooler (but still sweltering) polar cap regions being habitable. Unknown to anyone other then the readers, this is in fact extreme far future Earth, likely hundreds of thousands of years into the future, after its orbit moved close to the sun and most of the planet has melted or burned to char. Demons are actually much evolved Humans, who now resemble Satyr and have evolved to have cloven hooves, wool covered back bending digitigrade legs, long fluffy tails, and huge horns, all as a means of adapting to the hot rocks that cover solid surface ground, protecting lower body skin from heat, and regulation of body temperature. Only the readers are ever informed that Hell is in fact far future Earth and Demons are in fact far future Humans after evolving to adapt to the burning planet. It is so far in the future that Demons have no memory or history of any connection to once having been Humans. The setting is STILL Maine, even when it is The Planet Flame.

The name his mother called him was Glinta.

At age 9 he was Isekai'd to Earth's 1950s Maine via some teenager humans with a Ouija board. Meaning he time traveled to a few hundred thousand years into the past. He never changed location. The series is ALWAYS set in Maine.

He ends up Isekai'd a few more times to a few more eras and ends up in the 1970s Maine.

One final Isekai'd takes now 15 year old GhoulSpawn to Quaraun's planet Vesonta, which GhoulSpawn does not realize is still Earth, but just 40th century Earth, because by this time period Earth has been destroyed by a comet (in 2525) hitting the Moon, and so an entirely different landscape, governments, ect exists. It is STIIL Maine, but nothing that resembles Maine exists anymore. Here GhoulSpawn finds The Sun Elves, who give him the name GhoulSpawn.

He meets Quaraun this same year, and introduces himself to Quaraun as Glinta, which is why Quaraun calls him Glinta.

The Sun Elves tell Glinta he is the illegitimate son of their princess. They tell him a tale of her being kidnapped by a Demon and stolen away to the Burning Planet, where she gave birth to a half Demon baby. They tell him, she escaped Hell and returned with the baby, but that a Demon army followed her, killed her, and took the baby back to The Burning Planet.

They claim he is that baby and change his name from Glinta to GhoulSpawn.

Quaraun is injured by Humans, found comatose by the Sun Elves, and 15 year old GhoulSpawn is ordered to take care of Quaraun. The Sun Elves recognize Quaraun as a Moon Elf but are not aware of who specifically he is. Thinking Quaraun to be male, they assign a male to caring for him. While caring for Quaraun, GhoulSpawn discovers Quaraun is transgender, biologically female, but keeps the secret from the Sun Elves. BoomFuzzy finds Quaraun and the two leave together. GhoulSpawn continues to live with the Sun Elves.

A few years later, while resting at a tavern, Quaraun and BoomFuzzy encounter GhoulSpawn again, now 19 years old. GhoulSpawn tells them the Sun Elves are dead after their village was raided and he, GhoulSpawn was the only survivor. GhoulSpawn is now living in a halfElf refugee community. When Quaraun and BoomFuzzy leave the village a few days later Quaraun invites GhoulSpawn to join them and he does.

From this point on GhoulSpawn is treated as nothing more then Quaraun's apprentice.

GhoulSpawn has no real knowledge of who his father actually was, is not aware that he himself is Demon nobility, never lived amoung Demons long enough to learn Demon history or culture, and is far too young to be fully aware of pretty much anything about the world in general at all. GhoulSpawn is very much still a frightened child who clings to Quaraun for protection.

So, it's VERY out of character for him to be acting the way you presented him.

ChatGPT5's answer:

Well I'm back to let you know it's September 23rd. Almost 10pm. No rapture or nephillum or motherships yet.

You know, i got thinking too...that Bible verse all the rapture people are quoting, says only 133k people will be "transformed in the twinkling of an eye" (it doesn't say rapture, because the word rapture and the concept of people vanishing and leaving clothes behind in streets was actually invented by the author of the "Left Behind" series in the mid 1990s), so if that Bible quote is to be believed it's gonna be so few people that it'll only be a thousand people per country at most.

There's only like 159 countries on the planet, but 8 billion people. And the closest thing to a rapture in Bible scriptures is that one verse about the 133k which is really such a small number in comparison to 8 billion, that they wouldn't really be noticed unless they all raptured from a single location. But if it was like 1 person in this town, 1 person in that town, here and there, a thousand towns in each country.... wouldn't those of us left behind just think it was an ordinary every day average missing person?

So, if the rapture did happen today, would we even have noticed at all?🤔

But also... if only 100% non sinners are being raptured today, doesn't that mean only babies like under five years old, and animals (cats, dogs, birds, horses, etc) would get raptured, because I have a hard time imagining any Human adult or child who never committed a sin.

It only just now occurred to me how utterly arrogant it is the brag you will be raptured because it's bragging you never once in your life committed a sin. But arrogance/pride is one of the 7 deadly sins, so doesn't just the belief you qualify to be raptured cancel out your ability to be raptured?🤔

But anyways, it's 10am and no world ending events, no rapture, not mothership in the sky, and no giant nephillum roaming the streets has happened yet.😂🤣

ChatGPT5's answer:

Well there is some irony here.

• September 23, 1978 was the publication date of my first book.

• September 23, 2028 will be the 50th anniversary of me being a published author.

• September 23rd is my best friend's birthday.

• September 23 is the wedding anniversary of my parents, my mother's parents, five pairs of my aunts and uncles, and over twenty pairs of my first cousins

• In my Quaraun books, September 23rd is listed as the birthday of his great grand son Etiole the silver skinned Eel MerMan.

• September 23 is celebrated by us Mormons because it is the day Joseph Smith recipient the Golden Plates from the angel Moroni. September 23rd is a significant Holy Day in Mormon culture, with many Mormon families making the trek to Paylmyra New York on September 23rd each year. And traditionally it is the sealing day in the Mormon temple, Which is WHY so many of my relatives have September 23rd as their wedding dates, and WHY by first book was published on September 23rd.

• It is also a significant number for Jewish people, though I'm not entirely sure the reasons, but my best friend is Jewish (race/ethnicity) and a Kabalist (religion) and he's always talking about September 23rd every year because its a big holiday he celebrates.

The fact that September 23rd is such a significant number/date/Holy Day for us Mormons is WHY it starkly stood out to me last month when I started seeing a lot of Christians on YouTube and TikTok and Twitter mentioning it, because Christians USUALLY are MOCKING September 23rd because it is a holiday for Jews, Kabalists, and Mormons and we 3 religions get bullied and harassed by Christians all the time, especially about our holy days, and it just feels really odd to me that suddenly Christians are using September 23rd, and incredibly sacred holy day for us Mormons and also for Jews and Kabalists, a day normally mocked by Christians, and trying to say it is their Rapture day.

I don't know.

It just feels like misappropriation, like how Christians took Yule from Pagans and made it a Christmas holiday to try to erase Paganism, or how they did with Easter/Ostera and Halloween/Samine. It feels like that to me. Like it feels like Christians are just trying to take a holy day from other cultures and slap their beliefs on it to try to erase the origin of the Holy Day. Especially now with the 23rd here and nothing actually happened.

ChatGPT5's answer:

*sigh* Here we go again.
Do you remember our previous conversation about the rapture and nephillum and September 23? How some of my friends were in full panic mode over it? And I was clueless to why/how they could believe anything so ridiculous in the first place?

Well, September 23 came and went. One of my relatives says the year was wrong and is now waiting for the rapture of September 23, 2026, but the rest of them ...

*face palm*

... the rest of them say the first sign of the rapture DID happen, because of an article/blog post published by a Harvard astrophysics professor on September 24, 2025.

My friends are now claiming they can see the mothership soon as it'll be viewable from Earth on October 3, 2025. Because guess what? A new comet was just discovered. That what the Harvard professor's article was about. And my friends are saying, nope, it's not a comet, it's a nephillum mothership disguised as a comet.

And I'm here asking them "Do you guys not remember when you all said the same thing about HaleBop?"

But they won't listen to me. They say 3i/ALTRA (which was actually discovered quite a while ago, not on September 23rd like they are saying... the article announcement that we'd be able to see it from Earth soon, was published the 24th, and my friends were activly looking for comet news related to 23rd so they THINK, inaccurately, that the comet was discovered September 23rd), they say 3i/ALTRA is a mothership made of nickle and is loaded with nephillum who are coming to rapture people.

I've showed them older articles about that comet and they wouldn't even look at them.

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