EelKat Wendy C Allen - Dark Fantasy Author

#UPDATE: January 6, 2021:
To all of you who are sending me video clips this morning and asking "Is this your family?"...


To answer your questions...


* Yes... my relatives ARE on every news station in every country of the world today, yes they did ORGANIZE the attack on the Capitol Building... and I am horrified by it.


* No, before you guys sent me the video footage clips, I was unaware the attack had happened, I do not own a TV and do not seek out news reports on the internet, so had you not sent me those clips I would never have known the attack had happened at all


* Yes, many members of my extended-family were involved in organizing the attack on Washington D.C.; one of my aunts claims to be the organizer, she is now wanted by the FBI for questioning


* Yes, I can see 1 uncle, 2 aunts, and 23 1st cousins in those pictures and news reports.


* Yes, the shooter is the high priest cousin you saw posting gun photos and death threats on my FaceBook, Twitter, and Twitch chat


* Yes, that is the 2 cousins who founded the group "The Loyalist White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan More Loyal Than The Loyal White Knights", in the gif/memes trashing reporter cameras and jumping on said cameras 


* YES, that IS the uncle who was paying the Discord tittie streamer $500 a month to stage the "deserve to be raped raids" on my Twitch channel 


* Yes, that uncle, 2 aunts, and 23 cousins ARE all members of Heaven's Gate and were party to the original UFO cult kool-aid murder suicide that killed 39 people in 1997


* No, I do not support anything they do or have done; it's been more than 30 years since I last saw, talked to, or interacted with any of them


#And please, stop forwarding video footage and news reports to me. I want nothing to do with those jackasses. We share DNA, not ideologies. They absolutely disgust me.


* If you were there, please be aware that 4 of them are now bragging on their social medias that they currently have Covid-19 and that they were spitting on police and government officials during the attack on the Capitol Building; yes it is confirmed they DO actually have Covid-19... 9 members of their immediate family have died in the past month and is what instigated them to join the mob at D.C.


* Yes, all of them are wanted by the FBI... if you have any information about ANY of their crimes INCLUDING today's attack on Washington D.C., do NOT send it to me, send it to the FBI agent in charge of the case: 


#FBI Agent Andy Drewer out of the Portland, Maine FBI office is in charge of the investigation. If you have information about the case, give it to him not me. He can be reached @ +1-(207)-774-9322


This whole thing is very distressing for me. I do not like the kind of attention that gets put on ME because I happen to be related to THEM.

Far too many people harass my family, online and offline, because of these dipshits in our rather distant family tree.

I prefer to stay out of the public eye and deeply dislike being pulled into the paparazzi spotlight every time this group of lunatics pulls one of these ridiculous terrorist attack stunts.


It was very distressing for me to wake up this morning to find email, and every contact method on every social media, packs full of thousands of questions, links, and forwards, all asking me if that was my family that was being plastered across every news station on the planet.


It was bad enough to learn a terrorist attack had happened and it was even worse to learn it was yet again my uncles behind it.


Though I can not say I'm surprised to learn these jackass dipshits I have to share DNA with were involved. This certainly isn't the first terrorist attack they took part in.


Considering this 1 uncle, 2 aunts, & 23 cousins, all who took part in Heaven's Gate murder of 39 people in 1997, 1 of whom built the bomb for 2013's Boston Marathon, and 2 of whom founded the Loyalist White Knights... were involved in this attack too... I hope they get life in prison, they fucking deserve it.

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#UPDATE: January 9, 2020....


Good news, one of them was just arrested in Florida. He's the guy all over Twitter today, waving to security cameras while stealing Nancy Pelosi's lecture pedestal. My relatives are insane. I hope he never gets out.


At least he can't post death threats and rape threats in my Twitch chat anymore. I hope they arrest them all.


Why do I have to share DNA with these psychotic lunatics?


You can support your political party without being a violent, crazed, psychopathic terroist, you know.


#And random thought...


You know... all the people saying Trump supporters should stop inciting violence and go read their Bible, clearly have never read the Bible and have no clue how much violence and genocide God commands in the Old Testament... shouldn't it be the Trumpies need LESS Bible influence? Isn't it the Bible that inspired them to be violent in the first place?


And you want to know something else...


26 of those people now arrested for attacking the Capitol, had ALREADY been reported, in October 2019, for planning an attack on the government...

I know beause I filed that report on 3 uncles, 2 auns, and 23 cousins when they started building bombs and bought 4,000 asult rifles, while claiming they were building an army.

This attack was a long time in the planning and couldhave been prevented and the FBI knew about it 2 years ago.


But hey... guess what... the FBI knew about the Heaven's Gate murder 8 MONTHS before those same 26 people murdered 39 people under the shadow of Hale-Bop... AND the FBI knew in 2012, 5 months ahead of time that these same 26 people were building bombs for the Boston Marathon.


Same 26 people over and over again. This time some of them actually got caught... but the Heaven's Gate crew, has 4,000 members in Maine, Florida, Mississippi, Wyomin, Colorado, and Nova Scotia.


They are gaining members all the time. They claim they are building God's army, they claim Trump is "the God-King" God's form on earth, they also believe he is a shapeshifting reptilian alien, and they claim to be waiting for a mothership that will fly in the shadow of Comet Wormwood.


They claim "when the Trump of jubilie sounds" they will be ready to kill all who oppose them, because they believe they are God's Army and they do not fear death, for they also believe that through death, they "will be changed in the twinkling of an eye" and transformed into mighty arch angels to enact vengange of all who oppose them.


They embrace death, to the point, like they did in 1997, they will kill themselves if they have to, and take everyone around them with them.


Heaven's Gate should be feared and they should be in prison, not building gallows on the front law of the Capitaol building while trying to hang the Vice President.


How many decades will Heaven's Gate's members be allowed to kill and main unbridled? They are terrorists and NEED to be arrested and put in prison, BEFORE they do what they are planning and unleash a bomb that will kill every one "East of the Mississippi" as they put it.


My uncle David is dangerous, and now with his brother Bruce, leader of Heaven's Gate since 1997, dead from Covid19, David's crew has become far more dangerous than they ever were.


This attack they staged on the Capitol, it's not the end, it was just them firing a warning shot of something far bigger yet to come.


They need to be stopped BEFORE they kill more people.


How many times will this same group be allowed to kill over and over again, before someone stops them?


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1 uncle, 2 aunts, & 23 cousins were there; they are the leaders of Heaven's Gate AND the Loyalist White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan; they have 4,000 members armed with assault rifles, ready to march on command, and that's JUST the group in Palmyra, Maine - they NEED to be stopped... this post they made on Twitter is NOT a joke... they WILL march Jan 19... they MUST be stopped... Jan 6 was just a warning shot


https://twitter.com/profmath56/status/1347582047485906945?s=20




UPDATE: January 14, 2021
I received a deeply troubling question today... let's answer it...

I received a deeply troubling question today... let's answer it...


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*if someone asks me to do something in exchange for a donation...? I stream, and today someone I've never seen before sent me a message on discord asking me if I want [insert ridiculous amount of money here]. I of course replied asking what for, and the guy replies saying 'complete 25 challenges, for example #1 would be pulling a funny face. If you complete all 25 challenges then I donate the money.' Oh, and he also sent me screenshots of what I assume is supposed to be proof that he's dono'd tons of money to others before. This seems sus AF to me. Should I just assume it's fake / he'll ask me to do something weird? What do?*


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You've heard of the recent attacks on the American Capitol, right?

Have you NOT also heard about the 26 Twitch streamers who have found their name's on the FBI's no fly list even though they live in Europe and have never been to America?

Have you looked at today's day January 14 vs the date of the next 2 planned attacks, January 17 and January 20?

I doubt you'd ask this question if you HAD heard of what happened, so let me me summarize:

A group of terrorists spent several months planning an attack on Washington D.C. They took to intermingling with election rallies, so no one would suspect them. 

Meanwhile, online, they sought out a way to make 26 fake IDs for their group to use on attack day (January 6).

They ended up contacting 26 Twitch streamers the genders and approximate ages of the 26 people they had in their group going to D.C. 

Each streamer was sent an offer for being donated $500 in exchange for doing things. The streamers thought it seemed innocent enough and was easy money, so did it.

The reason for the $500 amount, was PayPal requires additional verification on large amounts, meaning, they were given the REAL NAMES AND HOME ADDRESSES of those 26 streamers. They next took those names and made 26 fake IDs using the names and addresses of those 26 streamers.

They used those fake IDs January 6 at D.C. and now as of Jan 7, those 26 streamers found their names on the FBI's no-fly list.

Those 26 terrorists, tossed the fake IDs and used their real IDs to leave D.C. and made their way back to Florida, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine, successfully returning home, while hundreds of other rally attendants found themselves unable to get on planes.

Given what those 26 did just before Jan 6, I would question anyone asking something similar to any streamer, right now, this close to Jan 17.

I highly recommend you report them to the FBI as possibly connected to the Jan 17 attack. **[https://tips.fbi.gov/](https://tips.fbi.gov/)**

The 26 people in question by the way... my uncle David, his wife Luci, his sister Barbie Jean, and 23 of their children, grandchildren, and great grand children... only one of whom so far has been arrested... the one who stole Nancy Pelosi's pulpit. On their way home to Palmyra, the rest showed up in my driveway January 11, to chant "All hail God King Trump" while bragging how they didn't get caught and outwitted the FBI and are going back to D.C. on Jan 17 and Jan 20.

Chances are VERY HIGH that the man contacting you was David's son Shem, who is the one who contacted the others prior to the Jan 6 attack, or so he bragged on Jan 11, while shooting off his rifils in my driveway, from a red 1980s vintage Jeep Cherokee.

Beware of the Atwaters, the Halls, the Cyrs, and the Johnsons... they ain't sending you money unless they are planning on using you to take the fall for some crime they plan to commit and blame on you. You'll go to jail and they'll walk free, like they always do, like they've been doing since the 1950s.

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..UPDATE: January 14, 2021...
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...MODS TAKE NOTICE!...
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...NEW BAN RULES ADDED TO THE CHANNEL... ..............................
...From today forward ALL USERNAMES ending in "Chan" are to be banned on sight...
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...I do not want any member of the 4Chan, 7Chan, Anon, QAnon or any similar terrorist organizations near my channel...
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...BAN THEM ALL!...

#As of this discovery a new policy is now in place on my channel.. all mods are to **IMMEDIATELY BAN** anyone and everyone they see with the word "Chan" at the end of their name, wither that user has ever visited my channel or not.

I want my mods to take ANY user they see on ANY channel ANYWHERE on Twitch to just ban those usernames from my channel as soon as they see them.

#From today forwards ALL USERNAMES ending in "Chan" are to be banned on sight.

#I do not want any member of this terrorist organization near my channel.

#The Chans are horrible people and I want nothing to do with any of them.

#Anyone found to be a supporter of ANY Chan is to be banned from my channel, even if they do not have "Chan" at the end of their username.

The "Chan" movement... OMG! They are fucking psychotic extremists. I had no clue what "Chan" meant or why people put it at the end of their username. Knowing what I know now and looking at the fact that the ringleader behind the 3 year long attack on my Twitch channel has the word "Chan" at the end of her username, the wild sex rumors she spreads about me FINALLY make sense.

Today one of my mods sent me the following message:

*"I noticed the girl trying to cancel you has "Chan" at the end of her username, as do many of her followers. I also noticed your confusion over her attacks and I wonder, do you know what "chan" means or why streamers put it at the end of their username? Everyone who has "Chan" at the end of their username is a witch hunting channel, it is how they identify themselves. It means they are extremist radical trolls from 4chan. There is even a wiki devoted to the "Chan Movement". Here, you'll want to read this. **[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan)** and this **[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology)**Twitter has started to ban anyone using "chan" at the end of their username because is identifies the user as connected with white supremacy hate groups. She's a QAnon terrorist and proud of it, that's why she has "chan" at the end of her name. That's why she is working with your uncles. She helped them plan the attack on the Capitol. She's a QAnon member. That's why she has the word "chan" at the end of her username. Every QAnon member does that. I didn't realize you had never heard of QAnon or 4Chan until I saw your Tweet last night. I'm s sorry. I thought you knew that is what she was. I would have messaged you sooner about this if I had known you didn't know what QAnon was. Also "Thingy" is a slang word, it means "a child's vagina" people put that in their username to signify they are supporters of child rape. These are really bad people attacking your channel. They are the same people who just attacked America's Capital. When they are chanting "ThingyChan" in your chat, it's a QAnon secret code word, it's another word for rape, it's a rape threat, it's them bypassing the NightBot ban of the word rape. It means they are threatening to gather up 4Chan members to rape you. 4Chan QAnon's use secret code words to bypass chat bans because they know most people don't know what the code words mean. It's like a Morse Code that only they know."*


Here is what the Wiki has to say:

>>>>*"4chan is an anonymous English-language imageboard website. Launched by Christopher "moot" Poole in October 2003, the site hosts boards dedicated to a wide variety of topics, from anime and manga to video games, music, literature, fitness, politics, and sports, among others. Registration is not available and users typically post anonymously; posting is ephemeral, as threads receiving recent replies are "bumped" to the top of their respective board and old threads are deleted as new ones are created. As of November 2020, 4chan receives more than 20 million unique monthly visitors, with more than 900,000 posts made daily."*

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>>>>*"The site has been described as a hub of Internet subculture, with its community being influential in the formation of prominent Internet memes, such as lolcats, Rickrolling, and rage comics, as well as hacktivist and political movements, such as Anonymous and the alt-right. 4chan has often been the subject of media attention as a source of controversies, including the coordination of pranks and harassment against websites and Internet users, and the posting of illegal and offensive content. The Guardian once summarized the 4chan community as "lunatic, juvenile ... brilliant, ridiculous and alarming""*

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>>>>*"Before the end of 2003, several new anime-related boards were added, including /h/ (Hentai), /c/ (Anime/Cute), /d/ (Hentai/Alternative), /w/ (Wallpapers/Anime), /y/ (Yaoi), and /a/ (Anime). Additionally, a lolicon board was created at /l/ (Lolikon),[26] but was disabled following the posting of genuine child pornography and ultimately deleted in October 2004, after threats of legal action."*

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>>>>*"On November 17, 2018, it was announced that the site would be split into two, with the work-safe boards moved to a new domain, 4channel.org, while the NSFW boards would remain on the 4chan.org domain. In a series of posts on the topic, Nishimura explained that the split was due to 4chan being blacklisted by most advertising companies, and that the new 4channel domain would allow for the site to receive advertisements by mainstream ad providers."*

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>>>>*"/pol/ ("Politically Incorrect") is 4chan's political discussion board. A stickied thread on its front page states that the board's intended purpose is "discussion of news, world events, political issues, and other related topics." /pol/ was created in October 2011 as a rebranding of 4chan's news board, /new/, which was deleted that January for a high volume of racist discussion."*

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>>>>*"Although there had previously been a strong left-libertarian contingent to 4chan activists, there was a gradual rightward turn on 4chan's politics board in the early-mid 2010s. The board quickly attracted posters with a political persuasion that later would be described with a new term, the alt-right. Media sources have characterized /pol/ as predominantly racist and sexist, with many of its posts taking an explicitly neo-Nazi bent. The Southern Poverty Law Center regards /pol/'s rhetorical style as widely emulated by white supremacist websites such as The Daily Stormer; the Stormer's editor, Andrew Anglin, concurred. /pol/ was where screenshots of Trayvon Martin's hacked social media accounts were initially posted. The board's users have started antifeminist, homophobic, transphobic, and anti-Arab Twitter campaigns."*

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>>>>*"The users of /r9k/ built upon by then popular 4chan memes "epic win" and "fail" to group the human population into "alphas" or stereotypical well-adjusted popular people and "betas" or stereotypical geek-ish social rejects, self-identifying with the latter. It became a popular gathering place for the controversial online incel community. The "beta uprising" or "beta rebellion" meme, the idea of taking revenge against women, jocks and others perceived as the cause of incels' problems, was popularized on the sub-section. It gained more traction on the forum following the Umpqua Community College shooting, where it is believed that the shooter, Chris Harper-Mercer, also warned people not to go to school in the Northwest hours prior to the shooting as users encouraged him. The perpetrator of the Toronto van attack referenced 4chan and an incel rebellion in a Facebook post he made prior to the attack while praising self-identified incel Elliot Rodger, the killer behind the 2014 Isla Vista killings. He claims to have talked with both Harper-Mercer and Rodger on Reddit and 4chan and believes that he was part of a "beta uprising", also posting a message on 4chan about his intention the day before his attack."*

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>>>>*"Anonymous originated in 2003 on the imageboard 4chan representing the concept of many online and offline community users simultaneously existing as an anarchic, digitized global brain. Anonymous members (known as Anons or QAnons) can be distinguished in public by the wearing of Guy Fawkes masks in the style portrayed in the graphic novel and film V for Vendetta. However, this may not always be the case as some of the collective prefer to instead cover their face without using the well-known mask as a disguise. Some anons also opt to mask their voices through voice changers or text-to-speech programs."*

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>>>>*"On January 19, 2012, the U.S. Department of Justice shut down the file-sharing site Megaupload on allegations of copyright infringement. Anons responded with a wave of DDoS attacks on U.S. government and copyright organizations, shutting down the sites for the RIAA, MPAA, Broadcast Music, Inc., and the FBI."*

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>>>>*"In the wake of the fatal police shooting of unarmed African-American Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, "Operation Ferguson"—a hacktivist organization that claimed to be associated with Anonymous—organized cyberprotests against police, setting up a website and a Twitter account to do so. The group promised that if any protesters were harassed or harmed, they would attack the city's servers and computers, taking them offline. City officials said that e-mail systems were targeted and phones died, while the Internet crashed at the City Hall."*

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>>>>*"In March 2016, Anonymous was reported to have declared war on Donald Trump. However, the "Anonymous Official" YouTube channel released a video denouncing #OpTrump as an operation that "goes against everything Anonymous stands for" in reference to censorship and added "we are for everyone letting their voices be heard, even, if the person at hand ... is a monster.""*

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>>>>*"In late 2017, QAnon, a pro-Trump group claiming to be the "real" Anonymous, first emerged on 4chan. In response, anti-Trump members of Anonymous warned that QAnon was stealing the collective's branding."*

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>>>>*"Since 2009, dozens of people have been arrested for involvement in Anonymous cyberattacks, in countries including the U.S., UK, Australia, the Netherlands, Spain, and Turkey. Anons generally protest these prosecutions and describe these individuals as martyrs to the movement. The July 2011 arrest of LulzSec member Topiary became a particular rallying point, leading to a widespread "Free Topiary" movement."*

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>>>>*"QAnon is a disproven and discredited far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping cannibalistic pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against U.S. president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal. QAnon also commonly asserts that Trump is planning a day of reckoning known as the "Storm", when thousands of members of the cabal will be arrested. The conspiracy claim is entirely fictitious. QAnon supporters have accused many liberal Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal. They have also claimed that Trump feigned conspiracy with Russians to enlist Robert Mueller to join him in exposing the sex trafficking ring and preventing a coup d'état by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and George Soros. The QAnon conspiracy theories have been amplified by Russian state-backed troll accounts on social media, as well as Russian state-backed traditional media."*

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>>>>*"Although preceded by similar viral conspiracy theories such as Pizzagate,[23][24] which has since become part of QAnon, the conspiracy theory began with an October 2017 post on the anonymous imageboard 4chan by "Q", who was presumably an American individual;[25] it is now more likely that "Q" has become a group of people acting under the same name. A stylometric analysis of Q posts claims to have uncovered that at least two people wrote as "Q" in different periods. Q claimed to be a high-level government official with Q clearance, who has access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States. NBC News reported that three people took the original Q post and spread it across multiple media platforms to build an Internet following for profit. QAnon was preceded by several similar anonymous 4chan posters, such as FBIAnon, HLIAnon (High-Level Insider), CIAAnon, and WH Insider Anon. Although American in origin, there is now a considerable QAnon movement outside of the United States, particularly in Europe."*

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>>>>*"QAnon adherents began appearing at Trump reelection campaign rallies in August 2018. Bill Mitchell, a broadcaster who has promoted QAnon, attended a White House "social media summit" in July 2019. QAnon believers commonly tag their social media posts with the hashtag #WWG1WGA, signifying the motto "Where We Go One, We Go All". At an August 2019 rally, a man warming up the crowd used the QAnon motto, later denying that it was a QAnon reference. This occurred hours after the FBI published a report calling QAnon a potential source of domestic terrorism—the first time the agency had so rated a fringe conspiracy theory. According to analysis by Media Matters for America, as of October 2020, Trump had amplified QAnon messaging at least 265 times by retweeting or mentioning 152 Twitter accounts affiliated with QAnon, sometimes multiple times a day. QAnon followers came to refer to Trump as "Q+""*

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>>>>*"The number of QAnon adherents is unclear as of October 2020, but the group maintains a large online following. In June 2020, Q exhorted followers to take a "digital soldiers oath", and many did, using the Twitter hashtag #TakeTheOath.[42] In July 2020, Twitter banned thousands of QAnon-affiliated accounts and changed its algorithms to reduce the conspiracy theory's spread.[43] A Facebook internal analysis reported in August found millions of followers across thousands of groups and pages; Facebook acted later that month to remove and restrict QAnon activity,[44][45] and in October it said it would ban the conspiracy theory from its platform altogether. Followers had also migrated to dedicated message boards such as EndChan and 8chan (now rebranded as "8kun"), where they organized to wage information warfare in an attempt to influence the 2020 United States presidential election.[47] Following Trump's loss to Joe Biden in the election, QAnon beliefs became a part of attempts to overturn the results and Trump's loss, culminating in the storming of the United States Capitol, leading to a further crackdown on QAnon-affiliated content on social media."*

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>>>>*"Anonymous is a decentralized international activist/hacktivist collective/movement that is widely known for its various cyber attacks against several governments, government institutions and government agencies, corporations, and the Church of Scientology."*

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>>>>*"Project Chanology (also called Operation Chanology) was a protest movement against the practices of the Church of Scientology by members of Anonymous, a leaderless Internet-based group. The project was started in response to the Church of Scientology's attempts to remove material from a highly publicized interview with Scientologist Tom Cruise from the Internet in January 2008."*

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>>>>*"The project was publicly launched in the form of a video posted to YouTube, "Message to Scientology", on January 21, 2008. The video states that Anonymous views Scientology's actions as Internet censorship, and asserts the group's intent to "expel the church from the Internet". This was followed by distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDoS), and soon after, black faxes, prank calls, and other measures intended to disrupt the Church of Scientology's operations. In February 2008, the focus of the protest shifted to legal methods, including nonviolent protests and an attempt to get the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status in the United States."*

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>>>>*"Reactions from the Church of Scientology regarding the protesters' actions have varied. Initially, one spokesperson stated that members of the group "have got some wrong information" about Scientology. Another referred to the group as a group of "computer geeks". Later, the Church of Scientology started referring to Anonymous as "cyberterrorists" perpetrating "religious hate crimes" against the church."*

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>>>>*"Members of Project Chanology say their main goal is "to enlighten the Church of Scientology (CoS) by any means necessary.""*

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>>>>*"Project Chanology began its campaign by organizing and delivering a series of denial-of-service attacks against Scientology websites and flooding Scientology centers with prank calls and black faxes. The group was successful in taking down local and global Scientology websites intermittently from January 18, 2008 until at least January 25, 2008."*

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>>>>*"Protesters in Boston, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Edinburgh, London, and other cities worldwide, wore Guy Fawkes masks modeled after the 2005 film V for Vendetta. Guy Fawkes was an English Catholic executed for a 1605 attempt to destroy the House of Lords. In V for Vendetta, a rebel against a near-future fascist regime uses the mask in his public appearances and distributes many of its copies to the population to enable mass protests."*

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>>>>*"According to The Washington Post, "the site's users have managed to pull off some of the highest-profile collective actions in the history of the Internet."*

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>>>>*"Users of 4chan and other websites "raided" Hal Turner by launching DDoS attacks and prank calling his phone-in radio show during December 2006 and January 2007. The attacks caused Turner's website to go offline. This cost thousands of dollars of bandwidth bills according to Turner. In response, Turner sued 4chan, 7chan, and other websites; however, he lost his plea for an injunction and failed to receive letters from the court."*

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>>>>*"KTTV Fox 11 aired a report on Anonymous, calling them a group of "hackers on steroids", "domestic terrorists", and collectively an "Internet hate machine" on July 26, 2007.[137] Slashdot founder Rob Malda posted a comment made by another Slashdot user, Miang, stating that the story focused mainly on users of "4chan, 7chan and 420chan". Miang claimed that the report "seems to confuse /b/ raids and motivational poster templates with a genuine threat to the American public", arguing that the "unrelated" footage of a van exploding shown in the report was to "equate anonymous posting with domestic terror"."*

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>>>>*"In May 2009, members of the site attacked YouTube, posting pornographic videos on the site. A 4chan member acknowledged being part of the attack, telling BBC News that it was in response to YouTube "deleting music"."*

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>>>>*"On October 18, 2006, the Department of Homeland Security warned National Football League officials in Miami, New York City, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland, and Cleveland about a possible threat involving the simultaneous use of dirty bombs at stadiums. The threat claimed that the attack would be carried out on October 22, the final day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan."*

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>>>>*"On November 29, 2010, Ali Saad, a 19-year-old, was arrested and had his home raided by the FBI for posting child pornography and death threats on 4chan. Ali had first visited 4chan "a week before [the FBI raid] happened". He admitted to downloading about 25 child pornography images from 4chan."*

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>>>>*"Collin Campbell, a U.S. Navy Machinist's Mate, was arrested in February 2011 after a fellow seaman found child pornography on his iPhone that he downloaded entirely from 4chan."*

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>>>>*"In January 2011, Matthew Riskin Bean, a 20-year-old man from New Jersey, was sentenced to 45 days in prison for cyberbullying on 4chan."*

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>>>>*"According to court documents filed on November 5, 2014, there were images posted to 4chan that appeared to be of a murder victim. The body was discovered in Port Orchard, Washington, after the images were posted. The posts were accompanied by the text: "Turns out it's way harder to strangle someone to death than it looks on the movies." A later post said: "Check the news for Port Orchard, Washington, in a few hours. Her son will be home from school soon. He'll find her, then call the cops. I just wanted to share the pics before they find me." The victim was Amber Lynn Coplin, aged 30. The suspect, 33-year-old David Michael Kalac, surrendered to police in Oregon later the same day; he was charged with second-degree murder involving domestic violence. Kalac was convicted in April 2017 and was sentenced to 82 years in prison the following month."*

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>>>>*"On July 14, 2019, 17-year-old Bianca Devins was murdered by 21-year-old Brandon Clark of Utica, New York after the two went to a concert together. The suspect took pictures of the victim's bloodied deceased body and posted it to Discord and his own Instagram page. The photos were widely shared on Instagram and other sites, particularly on 4chan where many users mocked and celebrated her death, saying she deserved it and praising the killer while depicting Devins as a manipulative young woman. Devins had developed a small following online and was a 4chan user herself."*

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>>>>*"Although preceded by similar viral conspiracy theories such as Pizzagate,[23][24] which has since become part of QAnon, the conspiracy theory began with an October 2017 post on the anonymous imageboard 4chan by "Q", who was presumably an American individual;[25] it is now more likely that "Q" has become a group of people acting under the same name.[26][27] A stylometric analysis of Q posts claims to have uncovered that at least two people wrote as "Q" in different periods.[28][29] Q claimed to be a high-level government official with Q clearance, who has access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States.[30] NBC News reported that three people took the original Q post and spread it across multiple media platforms to build an Internet following for profit. QAnon was preceded by several similar anonymous 4chan posters, such as FBIAnon, HLIAnon (High-Level Insider), CIAAnon, and WH Insider Anon.[31] Although American in origin, there is now a considerable QAnon movement outside of the United States, particularly in Europe."*

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Those are just a few highlights of what the Wiki has to say about the Chan Movement and why so many users on Twitch and Twitter tac the word "chan" to the end of their username.


If you want to read the full aticle to find out all the horrors of this horrendouse group of terrorists, here is the link:


* **[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan)**

* **[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology)**

* **[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon)**


As of this discovery a new policy is now in place on my channel.. all mods are to **IMMEDIATLY BAN** any one and everyone they see with the word "Chan" at the end of their name, wither that user has ever visited my channel or not.


I want my mods to take ANY user they see on ANY channel ANYWHERE on Twitch to just ban those usernames from my channel as soon as they see them.


#From today forwards ALL USERNAMES ending in "Chan" are to be banned on sight.


#I do not want any member of this terrorist orgination near my channel.


#The Chans are horrible people and I want nothing to do with any of them.


#Anyone found to be a supporter of ANY Chan is to be banned from my channel, even if they do not have "Chan" at the end of their username.


On a side note... do you remember in June 2016 when a group of crazy protestors showed up in my driveway chanting that my family was "Satan worshiping pedophile cannibals of the Scottish Mafia"? Well, it says on that Wiki:


>>>>*"QAnon is a disproven and discredited far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping cannibalistic pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against U.S. president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal."*

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Does that me those people in my driveway that day were QAnon members?


Scary... that group included 2 Mormon Bishops, the Old Orchard Beach Town Manager, several motel owners from Old Orchard Beach, an excavation owner in Old Orchard Beach, and 2 Old Orchard Beach Town councillors... uhm... does that mean Old Orchard Beach is infested with QAnon members?


I think I am finally starting to understand the weird accusations that get tossed at me and my family... like being called "Scottish Mafia" when we are not, and being called a "BDSM Dominatrix" when I am not, and being called a "Satan Worshiper" when I am not, or being called "pedophiles' or "cannibals" when we are not.


I never understood these accusations or what the possible source could have been, but I had never heard of QAnon until 2 days ago when Twitter announced they banned 70,000 QAnon members off Twitter, following the terrorist attack in Washington D.C. earlier this week. 


The Tweet my mod was referencing, was a Tweet where I asked "What is QAnon? I never heard of it before."


Okay, so now understand WHERE they got the accusations from, they apparently say those things about everyone. But the question still stands: Why me? Why my family? Why my Twitch channel? How did I become a target for members of such bizarre, psychotically deraged terroist group? 


Also... it says QAnon started in October 2017... but those people who were in my yard, the first time they showed up was April 10, 2015, and they arrived again May 14, 2015, June 12, 2015, September 12, 2015, and each time they showed up the group was bigger. They continued to show up throughout 2016.


Each group was lead by a masked man who always kept his face hidden. The group members called him "Mark" and "Mark Who Needs No Last Name"... he was a tiny elderly man about 5'9" very skinny, and had unkept white hair. He always arrived driving a backhoe, which is the same backhoe that drove over my house August 8, 2013. He was the one seen shooting at me and my family in several livestreams. He was prone to showing up while I was livestreaming... I think he used my livestream schedual to determine if I was home, and I also think he was trying to "get his 15 minutes of fame" because he was always trying to get himself and his rifales on my webcams.


All of it was recorded via those livestreams *(yes, this is why several Witcher 3 VODs are not available for you to watch... it's the ones with the terrorist attacks on my family in them.)*, and all the video footage forwarded to local police, who in turn forwarded it to the FBI, and the FBI assigned Agent Andy Drewer to the case June 26, 2016.


All of that was a full 2 years before the October 2017 date in that article.



As of this discovery a new policy is now in place on my channel.. all mods are to **IMMEDIATLY BAN** any one and everyone they see with the word "Chan" at the end of their name, wither that user has ever visited my channel or not.


I want my mods to take ANY user they see on ANY channel ANYWHERE on Twitch to just ban those usernames from my channel as soon as they see them.

#From today forwards ALL USERNAMES ending in "Chan" are to be banned on sight.

#I do not want any member of this terrorist organization near my channel.

#The Chans are horrible people and I want nothing to do with any of them.

#Anyone found to be a supporter of ANY Chan is to be banned from my channel, even if they do not have "Chan" at the end of their username.


#UPDATED to answer this question:

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*How is it you have never heard of 4chan or QAnon? I thought you were a dark webber? Everyone always talks about how you know all the darkest deepest sites on the internet. 4chan is like the biggest dark web website ever.*

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Uhm... WHO exactly says I know dark web websites and what exactly is a dark webber?

I've been on the internet since 1996, but I build websites, I don't visit websites. In my 25 years on the internet I've probably visited fewer than 100 websites total, if that many. In fact, I can list off the top of my head websites I visit and use:

* Amazon

* Blogger/BlogSpot (as a blog writer, I don't read blogs by others)

* Deviantart (as a blog writer, I don't read/view content by others)

* eBay

* FaceBook

* FanFiction.Net (not visited since 2011)

* LinkedIn (as a blog writer, I don't read blogs by others)

* LiveJournal (as a blog writer, I don't read blogs by others)

* MySpace

* Nexus

* Pinterest


* SoapBox

* Squidoo (ceased to exist 2013)

* Twitch

* Twitter

* WordPress (as a blog writer, I don't read blogs by others)

* YouTube

* Zazzle

Wow... not only didn't reach 100, I didn't even reach 20.

I find it rather laughable that you or ANY ONE would think of me as someone who knows "dark web" web sites.

When exactly do you think I have time to browse the internet to even look for any website at all?

I work 80 to 120 hour weeks. 

I publish 4 novels a year, dozens of short stories a month, 2 to 3 non-fiction articles every day, paint on canvas with acrylic art for **[new merch products](https://www.zazzle.com/store/eelkat)** weekly, write for 12 blogs, and a manage/edit/write for 200 websites **[like this one](https://www.eelkat.com/)** which I built from the ground up and am the ONLY person managing/editing/writing for... AND I'm a retail merchandiser for HallMark travelling hundreds of miles a week to set up displays at WalMarts, CVS, Post Offices, WalGreens, and Khols all over New England. On top of all of that I make YouTube videos AND stream on Twitch.

So, explain to me WHEN you think it is that I have any free time for browsing the internet? 

I don't know who told you I was a "dark webber" or that I would know anything about "dark web" web sites, but, honey... check their username... did it say "Chan" at the end of their name? Yeah... THEY are a "dark webber" who visits "dark web" websites, not me, as can be clearly seen by them putting "Chan" at the end of their username.

You might want to reconsider where you get your information about me, who you get your information about me from, and fact check the source of the information you get about me.



If you could recommend I watch one VOD that best represented your channel, which would it be?

This one....




The Princess Bride predicting Covid-19?

Avallac'h's a Good Tutor?
Of What? How to Better Bed Kings?


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Self-Publishers Beware: Places To Avoid

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If you've read a lot of my articles and advice column answers over the years, than you've probably noticed there are a few web sites which I tell self-published authors to steer clear of completely or to use with caution, however I never really went into much detail on why I say this, which has resulted in the following question frequently being asked:

"Why do you tell self-publishers to avoid the absolutewrite.com forums? I've heard it is the best forum for writers, why would you tell writers to stay away from it?"

Along with it's "sister" question:

"Why do you tell self-publishers to avoid the GoodReads discussions? I've heard it is the best place to promote my book, why would you tell me to stay away from it?"

AbsoluteWrite and GoodReads are both great places for writers, I never said they were not. Both places are vast sources of information, however, there is a serious issue on both sites with SELF-PUBLISHED authors being violently assaulted by other members and more disturbingly: by the moderators themselves who often instigate these horrendous personal attacks. Do note that the word "self-published" is key here. If you are not a self-published author, than you will be treated as an equal by other members. It is ONLY self-published authors who have ever run into the trouble described on this page.

Place To Avoid #1: The Water Cooler

Let's have a look at each site individually, starting with mega-giant super forum Absolute Write's Water Cooler. Absolute Write's Water Cooler is a place you seriously want to avoid if you are a self-published author. Over the years THOUSANDS of self-published authors have fled Absolute Write's Water Cooler in tears and terror. Not a few isolated instances, not dozens, not hundreds, but literal thousands of self-published authors have been subjected to the most horrendous flame attacks and trolling assaults I have ever seen on ANY forum anywhere, any topic. (Keeping in mind that I am an actively posting member on more than 300 forums, including the super-mega-giant ProBoards Support with it's more than 3 million active members.)

Many years ago, back when I was a highly active member on the forums (cir 2004 - 2009), AbsoluteWrite was a small site with a couple hundred members. The environment was warm and chummy, with folks bouncing ideas off each other and sharing stories of "here's how I did it". It was a tiny site run and managed by one author and moderated by a few friends. It was quaint and peaceful and the trolls were kept at bay and no member needed to fear their posts would come under attack.

The site got bigger and bigger and around 2007ish new owners took over the place, moderators (who bragged of being "SuperModerators swinging chainsaws") were now complete strangers unknown to the owners, people who simply volunteered for the job of "eating trolls" as they so jokingly put it. That's when the trouble first started, see the moderators were all traditionally published or as they so arrogantly put it "trade published" authors, boasting top-quality agents, and bragging of high sales from huge mega giant publishers, which seemed a good idea at first, but soon all hell broke lose on the forums as any member claiming to be self-published fell under heavy fire from these mods who were claiming that no self respecting author would ever stoop to what they termed as "the shady scam artist tactics" of self-publishing or working without an agent.

(Check the new member guidelines, where they boldly proclaim they will ban any member who dares call them "traditional published" and the rant about how they are "trade" not "traditional" and only idiots and stupid self-publishers would think to call them "traditional" published authors.)

Soon every self-published, small press published, or unagented author found themselves blacklisted, issued warnings, or banned from the forums for no reason other than "you don't deserve to call yourself a REAL author, you're just a self-published scumbag" (the actual words moderators wrote in the emails to these members.

The whole thing was swept under the rug by the owners, who claimed it was a misunderstanding on the part of the mods, pointing out that the site featured an entire section devoted to self-publishing.

(Yes, yes, it does. And the threads there are frequently attacked by "trade published" authors bragging they are better than people on this section of the forum. And I will point out that this forum is MASSIVE, with 70 sections all aimed at "trade" authors, and the self-pubbing section is tacked on to the very bottom of the forum added as an after thought, to bring the self pubbers back to the forum after first banning them. I will also point out that the self-pubbers are kept corralled in this one section and if they venture out into the rest of the forum they are immediately chased back into their tiny corral at the bottom of the page, by massive waves of attacking trade authors.)

Self published authors got their accounts back but few dared returned. Once bitten twice shy.

The environment grew more hostile as each year passed, with the super egos of "professional" authors, posting endless hate filled rants on every thread started by  "self-published trash". If the poster being attacked hit the report button, the mods would land on the thread and lash out with even more hate, snidely chiding the "self-published idiot" who was "too dumb to write a book worthy of REAL publication".

Starting a thread asking the question "Should I consider self-publishing?" would result in mods lashing out hell fire and damnation, telling the poor question asker that they had been "brainwashed" and was being "force fed KoolAid" (a reference to JonesTown Mass Murder Suicide, insinuating that self publishers deserved to be murdered since they were too dumb to get published).

Name calling was nasty, and all was done in total disregard for the ToS which clearly stated that flame attacks, personal attacks, hate speech, and trolling would all result in banned accounts. Mods blaintenly flaunted the fact that rules didn't apply to them, than stated that they didn't apply to anyone who was "a REAL author" either.

In short the moderators of the Absolute Write Water Cooler would seem to be nothing more than elitist spoiled brats who get away with doing and saying whatever they want to any member they want, and make an alarming daily habit of lashing out horrendous personal (often religious and racial as well) attacks at self-published authors.

Side Note: If you write Christian, Inspirational, Spiritual, Mormon, or Pagan fiction or non-fiction, than DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES even attempt to mention this fact on Absolute Write's Water Cooler. The moderators flaunt the fact that they are self proclaimed "Christian hating Atheists" and have a serious  hatred for anything perceived as religious.

Where are the owners while this is going on? Who knows. In spite of hundreds of thousands of active members, and dozens of spit-fire mods, the site appears to have been abandoned  by the owners who stopped answering member pleas for someone to enforce the site's ToS and do something to get the insanely out of control mods under control. Basically the site has been left to the whims of psychotically hate filled mods, who many have questioned are they even the real mods at all or is this a team of hackers who simply highjacked and took over the site?

My advice? If you are a self publisher: read the site; search the forums for answers, read what other folks have said, but avoid asking any questions, avoid posting answers to questions, and don't even bother joining or creating an account. Heck, you won't have to read very many threads before you start to see just how nasty the anti-self-publisher environment is over there.



UPDATE: Added on September 19, 2013

In recent years, the overall environment of Absolute Write's Water Cooler has become generally more hostile to everybody. They are still extra hostile to self-publishers, but no longer is it only self-publishers under attack.

In the past year the overall posts across the board have become very elitist and holier-than-thou. New members are being attacked for nothing more than creating an account (which is seen by long time members, and especially the fire tonged moderators) as an outright invasion of private property. New members are being belittled, bullied, treated like shit, and chased off the message boards mere hours after creating their accounts.

A new thread started just this week had been written by a new member who had three super "evil" marks against her (according to mods and members).

#1 She had self-published a book.

#2 She had joined the forum to ask advice.

#3 She said she had given up on and fired an agent.

Within seconds of posting her thread asking for advice on what to do now that she had gotten rid of an agent that had steered her the wrong direction, she was attacked by 5 members and 2 mods. One of the first posts (written by a mod) lashed out at her calling her "anti-agent" and accusing her of being "more self published trash out to lure authors away from agents and legitimate publishers" and ending with a rant of "I'm telling".

Minutes later the mod ran to other boards on the forum posting multiple new threads announcing the arrival of a new member and crying out to "come to arms against this agent hating bitch".

Within an hour the thread by the new member was under heavy fire with several members simply posting and telling her "go home you anti-agent piece of trash, you don't belong here with us REAL authors". Each member was posting blind hatred, raving and ranting, and it was very clear that not a one of them read a word of her post at all.

The posts decrying her as anti-agent  railed on for several hours, working themselves into a hate frenzy worthy of the Ku-Klux-Klan. And than suddenly another member came on and asked "But did you actually read her post? I can't find anything anti-agents in her question at all. What are you people talking about?"

Instantly the response back was "the bitch deleted it to deceive you and make you think we were crazy" and "yeah, more of those scam tactics used by self-publishers to deceive you."

FACT: I was watching this thread since the beginning. I saw what it said before anyone answered it. (I subscribe to Absolute Write's Water Cooler's RSS feed so that I can read the posts without having to head to their site.) I know for a fact that the original poster never said anything anti-agent at all. I know that she was basically in tears asking for help after having been scammed by someone who had pretended to be an agent when they were not.

FACT: Her original post was very long and would have taken at least 10 minutes to read.

FACT: The first poster was a mod who responded seconds after the post went up, and had clearly only read the title of the thread (which stated "Fired my agent, now what?"and not the post itself which told the full story.

FACT: The poster fell under attack, her thread receiving 30 hate filled posts in under 4 minutes after posting it, proving that not a single responder read her post at all, as it would have taken at least 10 minutes to read it.

FACT:

When some  one who was not a member of the galloping hate pose pointed out that what they were saying about the original post was simply untrue, they lashed out at that person accusing him of lying, than further attacked the original poster accusing her of having edited the post. Some accused her of changing the post and than using this second account to make them look stupid. They were next attacking both posters accusing them of being the same person with two accounts.



Place To Join Instead: NaNoWriMo

Other questions I have received on this topic include:

"You're right. Absolute Write's Water Cooler is a nightmare. I joined thinking they wouldn't do that to me. Boy was I ever wrong. Those people are crazy! They attacked me just like they attacked those other people. What can I do? I want to post on a writer's forum but I don't want to be in a war zone like that. Are there any friendly forums that are safe for me to join?"

Yes there is. National Novel Writing Month's NaNoWriMo Forum is extremely warm and friendly, and very welcoming to new members and self-publishers alike. (Btw, don't mention NaNoWriMo on Absolute Write's Water Cooler, they'll attack you for saying it's name and than lash out a belly full of why NaNoWriMo is the evilest place under the sun because it "promotes shitty writers and advocates writing crap" according to the Absolute Write's Water Cooler mods.)

While Absolute Write's Water Cooler is run by self-righteous armatures devoid of any knowledge of the site's rules and ToS, NaNoWriMo forums is run by professionals, people who know what they are doing, staff who are actually trained in human resources management, and people who are well versed in the rules and ToS of the site.

NaNoWriMo has a "No Trolls", "No Flamers", "No Hate Posting", "No Racial Slurs", "No Swearing" policy which is tightly enforced. Posts of this nature are deleted minutes after showing up. A "3 strikes you're out" rule is also enforced: post hate after being warned twice and your account is deleted.

Because the forum mods are always on their toes and doing the job they were hired to do, the NaNoWriMo forums are 100% troll-free. The site is so threat free, family friendly and inviting that school teachers promote it as one of the best sites for teen authors to visit, which has in turn resulted in the fact that now more than 100,000 of the forums active members are between the ages of 13 to 18.

Now entering it's 15th year, and boasting 500,000 ACTIVE members (averaging 30,000 online at any given time) the NaNoWriMo forum has become known as the #1 spot on the internet where writers of all kinds, published or unpublished, self-published or traditional published, to hang out and talk shop.

The best part of NaNoWriMo is you can ask for advice without fear of being told you are stupid, without fear of being attacked, without fear of being told you don't belong there for whatever high polluting reason.

Places To Join Instead: KDP & CreateSpace

Another common question I receive regarding Absolute Write's Water Cooler is:

"I was just at the Water Cooler and I've had it with their snotty nosed attitude. I'll never be good enough in their eyes. Who the hell died and made them God? They don't own me, they can't tell me what to do! So what if I self published a book? It's my book. It's my life. I've had it. I'm not going back to that place. Too many bad vibes. I get sick to my stomach every time I go there. What I want to know is, is there a place like The Water Cooler but is just for self publishers only?"  

Yes. Yes there is. In fact there are two such places. Kindle KDP Forums and CreateSpace Forums. Both are targeted directly to helping self-publishers with every aspect of their career. Both of them are owned by Amazon.

You can find links to both places on this page. You have to click EACH of the "Get Started" buttons in order to join both forums individually. You will find no mention of either forum on that page, just a button telling you to get started on your ebook or your print book. Getting started means you create an account, and after you have created an account than you will be given a link telling you how to log into the forum. You are not required to publish a book on either Kindle or CreateSpace in order to join the forums.

I point out one quick note here: Amazon does little to moderate these forums and on occasion trolls and flamers are known to attack, it's rare, but it happens.

Frequently you will run into old members who are "fed up" with "answering newb questions that have already been answered" and will often respond to a new member's question with "Will you just use the search feature for crying out loud, it's right there in your face. Use it and stop asking questions we've already answered 500 times!"

If you are a new member, use the search function first, than if after reading all 500 threads on the topic you still haven't found your answer, start a new thread, but start it with: "So I used the search feature, and found lots of info, but nothing that really answered my question, so I was wondering if you could help me out with this..."

You'll start out on a better foot if you let them know you know how to use the search feature before asking questions.



Place To Avoid #2: GoodReads

Now moving on to GoodReads.

While the hostility on GoodReads has not yet reached the insanely overblown anti-self-publisher extremes seen on Absolute Write's Water Cooler, it is escalating at a rate which suggests it will not be long til it is as equally unsafe for self-publishers as Absolute Write's Water Cooler is.

While at Absolute Write's Water Cooler I say "Don't even bother to create an account", at GoodReads I say "Use your account with care". The problem at GoodReads is quite different than what is seen at Absolute Write's Water Cooler. Absolute Write's Water Cooler has flagrant, unjustified attacks on any author who dares admit to ever self-publishing, with most of these attacks instigated by the moderators. GoodReads however is not so mindless in it's attacks, and the attacks on GoodReads are by members not moderators.

The problem with GoodReads is also usually started by the author. While Absolute Write's Water Cooler is a site where writers talk about writing, GoodReads is a site where readers talk about reading. However some self published authors have abused GoodReads' book reviewing system, by spamming readers asking for reviews. This is a big no-no that will get your account banned. GoodReads is not the place to promote your book.

For the most part authors chatting with readers was going along fine, until the self-published e-book boom of 2010 - 2011. That's when the trouble on GoodReads started.

A flood of tens of thousands of self published Kindle authors (most of them one-shot-wonders, who did no formatting or editing and were passing off short novellas of 40,000 to 75,000 words as "novels" [novels are 120,000 words or more], that where dripping in typos and errors) landed on GoodReads all at once, and began to "self add" their books to GoodReads database (normally readers add a book after they have read it - it is a taboo no-no for an author to add their own title to the database).

Adding the books to the database was not a big issue, until those authors than began to contact every member on GoodReads with site wide emails saying: "Here's my book, please buy if off Amazon and tell me what you think!"

The annoyed readers would than leave 1star reviews saying "I didn't read this book, I just want to warn other readers to stay away from this spammer."

The author would comment on the review. The reader would comment on the comment, and next thing you know an all out battle between reader and author is going on.

This happened so many thousands of times to so many tens of thousands of readers, that a majority of them banded together in an "anti-self publisher protest". An angry mob of thousands of members began actively searching out self-published authors and back-lashed their books with not hundreds, but rather thousands of hate filled 1 star reviews. The herd continues attacking any book or author "perceived" as self published, whether they are or not. Many of the herd's members began petitioning GoodReads demanding a ban on self-published books in the database.

Things seem to have calmed down on GoodReads, but the herd rises up from time to time to lash out on any self-published author who posts in the groups and discussions with any mention of their book.

To be safe on GoodReads, never contact another member asking them to check out/buy/read/or review your book, and if you post on threads, never mention that you are an author, never mention your book, just be a reader among readers and talk about books you've read, forget that you are an author while roaming GoodReads and you'll do fine.

Place To Join Instead: LibraryThing

However I do frequently receive questions like this one:

"Is there an alternative to GoodReads where I can post my book and let people know it's out there?"

Not really. No. There are alternatives to GoodReads, yes. LibraryThing, headquartered here in Portland Maine, was the very first book database and was the inspiration for GoodReads and thus is very similar. However, like GoodReads if you start blasting your book in everyone's face, you'll receive a nasty reception from the members, most of whom are in fact librarians, as the site was originally open only to libraries. Anyone can join today, but librarians still dominate the membership.

Are there places to promote your book? A few, however, none that I'm aware of, which actually do the authors any good. As a general rule promoting your book online via groups, forums, etc, is not recommended and causes more harm to your reputation than anything else.








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