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The thing that always gets me, is when a bunch of unpublished writers are giving very BAD advice, and a published author who knows better, comes along and points out that the advice being given won't work because of whatever, and then they give actual examples of what worked vs what didn't... and the whole kit and kaboodle of unpubbed writers attack the published author, because in their own words "you're just showing off that you got published and we didn't" :(

I can never understand the need for those who don't know how to do a thing, to parrot bad advice they overheard said by others who also don't know how to do it, but you seem to find this sort of attitude in any topic, not just writing. Go to fish forums, and you find people who never raised a beta, giving advice on how to raise a beta, simply because they overheard someone else say the thing... in that case, the advice is often so bad that it will actually cause the fish's death too. But then when an actual beta breeder comes in and says: "No, that's wrong it'll kill this fish, don't do that, do this" all of a sudden the betta breeder gets gained up on attacked by the people giving the bad advice.

Do any of you read r/pubtips ? Last week a guy asked for advice on finding an agent... and an actual agent, came on and answered him, told him how she looks for authors to represent, and she got attacked! By people who were not agents and did not have agents!

Over on the BDSM subs, you constantly see users giving "joke" advice on EXTREMELY dangerous things to try --- things that could actually kill people. Then when people who live the lifestyle point out: "No that's dangerous because of...." The fako BDSMers attack them.

I don't think it matters what topic it is. I think you are going to find this sort of thing happen in every career.

It's like the get-rich-quick books that are written by people hoping to get rich from writing get-rich-quick books. LOL!

I don't know... I just see this sort of "know-it-alls who know nothing" giving bad advice, and then ganging up on "professionals in the career" who actually give the correct advice.

I just don't understand why it happens.

I don't understand why people who know nothing of a topic try to give advice on it. They are bold faced liars, and I can't understand what type of mentality would see nothing wrong with telling a lie.

And I don't understand why when someone who actually knows the answer, comes along and answers, why the fakers gang up on them. I can't understand this sort of anger filled mentality either.

I just find it so weird. It's this weird herd mentality thing that I just can not wrap my mind around at all.

That said...

I find that most people seem to be giving advice based on personal experiences of stuff that they tried that either worked or didn't work for them and are not so much giving advice so much as just sharing their personal experiences in the topic at hand. The people willfully giving bad advice seem to be in the minority, and while every topic has them, they are not the majority.




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Posters here likely skew towards the younger side and a lot of them probably aren't writing professionally.

I agree.

You can usually tell the age of a poster quite quickly as well by the way they "talk", the type of words they use, and the type of questions they ask.

Based on what I see in most of this sub, it appears that the bulk of the question askers are between the ages of 12 to 18, while most of the commenters are from the ages 16 to 24.

I've been noticing a lot of people discussing or asking questions about some seriously depressing writing topics on this subreddit. I realize that darker themes and morally grey characters are somewhat popular right now (Game of Thrones, etc.), but almost every one of these posts sound like carbon copies of each other.

Very few kids are able to write adult topics, because have not yet experienced them and can not even begin to understand them. On the other hand teen depression has increased in the past decade by 67%, resulting in teen authors focusing on writing doom and gloom, because they can't comprehend anything else as a load bearing topic of a person's life.

Are there any successful novels that actually follow this pattern? I've always understood that active protagonists (i.e. those who affect the present instead of dwelling on the past) tend to be more popular than inactive protagonists. Is this trend starting to shift?

Likewise, very few children are ever published. The depressed gloom and doom stories they write, are not what publishers seek, nor what readers read. Then they wonder why they can not get published, become more depressed and write even more gloom and doom.

Teens and young adults are always prone to think dark depressing thoughts, write dark depressing topics, and then bemoan the fact that publishers do not publish fiction by teens.

Posters here likely skew towards the younger side and a lot of them probably aren't writing professionally.

Professional career writers do not ask the types of questions you see on this sub.

If you pay attention, the bulk of questions are things that a professional career author would look at and think: "How are you so stupid you can't figure this out on your own?" There are many questions involving things career authors don't even think about: writer's block for example.

Career authors know that writer's block is a cop out excuse, a myth, a thing used by non-professionals to describe the fact that they are too lazy to treat writing as a career. When you have a job, you get up in the morning, go to work, do your job, take a break at noon for lunch, go back to work, go home. You do that even when you are an author and work at home. Yet every day 3 or 4 new writer's block related questions get posted. Why? Because they are kids with no concept of having responsibilities, doing a job because you have to do it to pay the bills, and not having the option to say: "I don't know what to write."

Career authors, know the basics of grammar. They are not asking basic questions taught in high school, because they already have a college degree in English. They were responsible students who paid attention in school. Yet, you see questions about verbs, nouns, and comas posted here every week.

Career authors are publishing 4 novels a year minimum, they know how to create characters, write dialogue, come up with ideas, outline novels, plot stories, etc. Yet you see dozens of questions of this nature every day here.

Why are life shattering backstories so popular on this subreddit? If it's so life-changing, shouldn't that be the story, not the flashback? I'm sorry if this came off a bit "rant-ish", but I'm genuinely curious. Is there something that I'm missing?

The answer is simple... the people asking these questions are kid just getting started in writing. They know nothing of the basics, they know nothing of story structure or how to take a story from point A to point B.

And this is thus what brings them here.

They write themselves into a corner, get stuck, and because they lack training or experience, they come here asking for help. They know they've done something wrong, but they don't know what. They've not yet learned how to deal with the situation they are writing and so ask for help.

The thing you have to remember, is this sub is a place where young writers can come to learn, seek advice, and ask questions.

They may not be career authors, YET, but many have that as a goal. Many are seeking to become published. Many seek to make writing their career.

Well, think about it... the only way to learn how to go from a beginner to a professional, is to ask questions, seek advice, and get answers. And that's a good thing. It means they know there is something wrong, but rather then ignore the problem, they come here to say: "So I did this, but it feels wrong, how do I fix it?"

Is there something that I'm missing?

I think, that is the point you are missing.

You are looking at these questions thinking: "So they are publishing THIS?"

When instead you should be looking at it as: "So, this isn't working for them, and they want to know how to make it better. What do I know about stories I read that can help them improve and make this story better? How can I help them on their path to becoming a published author? How can I help them make this story the best it can be?"

The point is, if they were professional career authors, they wouldn't be here asking these sorts of questions to begin with. And at the same time, if they did not take their writing seriously, they wouldn't be here asking for help. They want to improve. And that's a good thing.

There is nothing wrong with people asking for advice on how to improve their work.





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  1. Amphibious Aliens: The Story of Etiole & The World's Most Haunted Car
  2. The GoldenEagle: An Auto-biography of the World's Most Haunted Car
  3. Medieval Servants: Their jobs and their place in historical fiction.
  4. How Long is 50,000 Words?
  5. On being a handicapped CosPlayer at PortCon Maine 2017
  6. Stephen King's The Thinner and The Gypsies Of Old Orchard Beach, Maine
  7. Writing Mute Characters
  8. Flamboyant Nipples: The KKK's New Gay Hating Site About Old Orchard Beach | The Site That Makes Fun of Terrorist Hate Crimes
  9. Writing Dares Random Generator
  10. Don't put flyers on people's cars...
  11. The Saco River Curse
  12. Our Primary Site Topic Is Small Penis? Reaching #1 on Page 1 of Google.
  13. Help FBI End Anti-Gay White Power Terrorist Attacks of Old Orchard Beach
  14. Creating Character Profiles | Meet The Characters | Who Is Quaraun?
  15. Introduction To The Quaraun Series: aka Too Gay For Old Orchard Beach
  16. The Dazzling Razzberry aka EelKat's Autism Awareness Car
  17. Autism, Asperger, PTSD, & Mad Cow: Writing Clinical Insanity Accurately | What is wrong with Quaraun? 
  18. Quaraun Free To Read Online Complete Chapter Index In Chronological Order
  19. Necromancy: Fact Vs Fiction; Or How Can You Be A Necromancer In Real Life?
  20. 600 Pages: Epic Big Super Sized Novels and Why You Should Never Write One
  21. Why Crude Adult Comedy and Pink Humor Yaoi Is Not Erotica
  22. The FBI In Old Orchard Beach, Maine Trying To Capture A Domestic Terrorist
  23. One Gypsy's Review of My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding
  24. The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach - page 1 (Online Release of Banned Book)
  25. Autism, Asperger's, And The Danger of The Self-Diagnosis
  26. Spell Casting Side Effects: Magic In Quaraun's Universe | Author Interview
  27. What Type of Music Does A Gypsy Listen To? My Top 10 Favorite Bands
  28. Beware of White Men In Gypsy Clothing: Fake Psychic Scams
  29. How long does it take to hit 1667 words?
  30. How to Write A Kiss
  31. Phookas
  32. Creating Character Profiles | Meet The Characters | Who Is GhoulSpawn?
  33. Albino Races - Moon Elves In The Quaraun Series
  34. Daily Writing Prompts (June 2017 Archive)
  35. My 30th Anniversary of Being Transgender
  36. Why Are The Quaraun Books Rated M18+
  37. How to Write Hot Sex - Tips For Erotic Romance Authors
  38. The Zaharam-Chapelle-Parunas Ethnographical World Building Questionnaire
  39. The Jiggler & The G-String Teddy Bears | The Adventures of Quaraun The Insane
  40. What exactly makes an Elf an Elf? (What is the definition of an Elf?)
  41. Online Income: The Reality vs The Fantasy
  42. World's Most Haunted Car Merchandise
  43. I Am Not GhoulSpawn | Excerpt From Rose Garden of The Pink Necromancer
  44. Old Orchard Beach Hate Crimes
  45. BoomFuzzy Chapter 1 (Novel Excerpt - Quaraun The Insane)
  46. How can your books have gay transvestite characters and not be Erotica? or Why are gay haters beating up elderly woman for wearing pink for breast cancer awareness and saying she's a transexual because only transexuals wear pink?
  47. EelKat's Guide To NaNoWriMo Featuring The 13 Step Method To Writing
  48. Autism and the Stigmas - Why Can’t You Accept Me As Me?
  49. Maine UFO Sightings
  50. Page 11 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach - The Scottish Traveller Crime Family
  51. Psychedelics In A 'High' High Fantasy World (High Elves Getting High)
  52. KBoards, The NaNoWriMo ML Rumor & The Vindictive Stalker
  53. Writing Racist Characters VS The Ku Klux Klan In Old Orchard Beach, Maine
  54. Captured By The Lich Lord | The Night of The Screaming Unicorn
  55. How To Build A Magic System
  56. I've everything but a kitchen sink. Wait, how'd that sink get in my pocket?
  57. Stephen King's Thinner Gypsies & The Ku Klux Klan of Old Orchard Beach
  58. Autistic Characters In Fiction
  59. City of The Slushies | Chapter 7 | Quaraun The Insane
  60. Manuscript Reading Services or Will You Read My Book and Tell Me What You Think?
  61. Suicide, Rape, and Abuse In The Quaraun Series
  62. Wizards vs Witches vs Sorcerers: How are they different? | Writing Fantasy Books
  63. FRED: Google's Most Deadly Update Ever?
  64. How To Write A Novel: Question Everything Before Putting It In Your World
  65. Content writing: How long do you spend creating a quality blog post?
  66. SBI: To Review or Not to Review? That Is The Question
  67. Twerking Dragons: The Joys Of Writing A Novel With A Voice Recorder
  68. A Day At Witch Pond & Fleeing To The Forest | Summoner of Darkness
  69. Transgender, Transsexual, Transvestite, or Intersex: What Is Quaraun?
  70. Sheep | GhoulSpawn The Crazed & The Rose Garden of The Pink Necromancer
  71. Colour Magic - Gypsy Style
  72. Ideas, Ideas, Ideas (Where Do You Get Them?)
  73. Keywords & Pigeons: How I Do Local Business Marketing
  74. Quaraun & Autism In Fantasy Novels
  75. The Signs Of Old Orchard Beach & The FBI Investigation Of The Town Hall
  76. Tom Addams & The Warrior's Forum
  77. A Field of Poppies On The Road To Witch Pond | Summoner of Darkness
  78. An Elf and a Lich in the Gingerbread Pit | The Night of The Screaming Unicorn
  79. Markiplier Jacksepticeye and Pewdiepie Play Resident Evil 7
  80. Santa Claus: Lich Of The North Pole (Includes NSFW 18+ CBT Yaoi scene)
  81. A Motorhome named 'No Hurry' becomes Rosebud & The Story of Ten Kidnapped Cats
  82. Create Original Content aka I Hate Jackass Gutter Scum Thieves
  83. Lost In a Space That Isn't There: Going North To Head South
  84. An Elf Gone Mad: The Rise of The Pink Necromancer
  85. Aspergers is NOT Autism
  86. Is The Quaraun Series Erotica? - No! Here's why...
  87. Summoner of Darkness: GhoulSpawn and Quaraun Trapped With A Phooka
  88. The Dungeon Master & The 1974 AMC Gremlin
  89. The Lich's True Form Revealed | The Night of The Screaming Unicorn
  90. Using work you already started for national novel writing month?
  91. World-building In The Quaraun Series: Creating a Fantasy World
  92. Books in Vacationland 2017
  93. BoomFuzzy's Gingerbread House From Hell
  94. Lets Playing Is No Longer Fun
  95. Santa's Floating Dead Body | A Scene From The Summoner of Darkness
  96. The Banshee Sisters: Bean-Nighe and Ben-Neeyah In the Swamp of Death
  97. The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach - page 2 (Online Release of Banned Book)
  98. What vlogging equipment is needed to get started as a YouTube vlogger?
  99. April 2015 Update: Too Gay For Old Orchard Beach: The Kidnapped Cats
  100. Betta Fish Aesthetic on Pinterest
  101. Domain Name Branding: Should You Put Your Brand Name In Your URL?
  102. Life As A YouTuber: How To Earn An Income From Making Videos
  103. Making YouTube Videos: How did you decide what content to make?
  104. Page 4 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  105. Twighilight Not Twilight
  106. YouTube Index
  107. Amphibious Aliens: My health since the stroke and Etiole . . .
  108. Are You A Satan Worshiper?
  109. Average Typing Speed
  110. Custom Leggings - Designs By EelKat
  111. Ernest Hemingway Style of Writing Literary Fiction Used In Epic Fantasy Novels
  112. Google Flagged Your Site! What To Do? (Help For Web Masters)
  113. How valuable is a writer’s group?
  114. Lives Destroyed: Amphibious Aliens 10th Anniversary Update
  115. Lost In a Space That Isn't There: Santa's Letter To Satan
  116. Summoner of Darkness: Quaraun Meets The Gremlin
  117. The Terrorists of Old Orchard Beach Put My Dad In a Coma
  118. Using Yahoo Answers to promote your book and author website.
  119. What Is This Site?
  120. You Stole My Idea - I was writing a book, but you already wrote it 10 years ago!
  121. City of The Slushies | Chapter 1 | Quaraun The Insane
  122. Creative Writing Story Prompts: September 2017 Edition
  123. Dungeons and Dragons: The Joys Of Calculating Gold Weight In AD&D 2ed
  124. Fabric Designed By EelKat
  125. My Fave YouTubers Play: Dream Daddy - The Yaoi Dad Dating Sim Otome Game
  126. Necromancy: How will resurrection affect society as a whole?
  127. Page 7 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  128. Pink Flowers Aesthetic on Pinterest
  129. The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach - page 12 (Online Release of Banned Book)
  130. What will a traveler encounter on the roads in your world?
  131. Are you insane? Am I? Let's Find Out...
  132. Becoming A Better Writer: How to write interesting dialogue.
  133. Character Creation
  134. Copper Cockeral Cards & Gifts
  135. Elves, Drugs, and Opium: A Look At The Drug Use In The Quaraun Books
  136. How To Stay Motivated To Write | Writing Fantasy Books
  137. Jewelry Fashions in Moon Elf Culture | World Building | Writing Fantasy Books
  138. Keyword Marketing - What to do when your best keywords are low demand
  139. Magic Systems and How to Build Them | Writing Fantasy Books
  140. NaNoWriMo Overachievers: How did you do it?
  141. Quaraun Cover Art Gallery | Fantasy Novel Book Cover Art
  142. Quaraun The Insane : Zebulon's Captive: The Last of The Moon Elves
  143. SEO Advantages of Embedding YouTube Videos On Your Website
  144. Summoner of Darkness: A Tavern Scene - Chastity Cages, and Whores
  145. Summoner of Darkness: The Return of ZooLock (free to read online)
  146. Twighlight Not Twilight Part 2
  147. Vanishing Books Update - Why 27 of my books were deleted off Amazon
  148. What is a God in Your Universe? | World Building | Writing Fantasy Books
  149. Writing Maine: How To Write About Maine Life Accurately
  150. What the Ocean Gives Me (How Things In Your Life Affect Your Writing)
  151. City of The Slushies | Chapter 14 | Quaraun The Insane
  152. February 10, 2008 - Harassment Continues in Old Orchard Beach, Maine
  153. How does a bestselling book become a bestseller?
  154. Marriage in Moon Elf Culture | World Building | Writing Fantasy Books
  155. People are not interested in long winded copy
  156. September 26, 2017 - The Latest Attack By The KKK on The Thinner Gypsies
  157. Spending Money To Make Money Online? Should You Do It?
  158. Summoner of Darkness: The Demon Cultists and The Coming of The Darkness
  159. Summoner of Darkness: The Map of The Town (novel free to read online)
  160. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt GOTY | Completionist Run: Episode 01
  161. Trespassers: April 2007 Updates
  162. Turning Scenes, Into Stories & Writing Travelogue Style Fantasy Books
  163. Where To Get Endless Ideas For Short Stories, Novels, and Articles
  164. Writing Controversial Books: Political Correctness & White Supremacists
  165. Are Bad Reviews Good For You?
  166. Branding Yourself While Avoiding The Scams | EelKat On Content Writing
  167. Child Sacrifice in Fantasy Novels | Writing Fantasy Books
  168. How to Handle Writing Fantasy-Horror That Features Violence Against Children
  169. How would you explain your Fantasy world to a stranger?
  170. Page 6 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  171. Summoner of Darkness: HellBorne The Evil, Lord of Black Tower
  172. The return of Friends Are Forever - Banned and Burned it's about to be reborn!
  173. Why do Lovecraftian beings come to earth?
  174. Writing Prompts Syndrome?
  175. Autism = The Crazy Cat Woman of Maine
  176. Autism: Understanding what is really going on inside the child’s head.
  177. But what exactly IS a full time income?
  178. Content Marketing & writing: How I write content for my website
  179. Do you write a novel start-to-finish?
  180. GhoulSpawn and The Lich Lord's Lover: How To Kill a Lich
  181. How is it that the church leaders are claiming you do not pay tithes?
  182. How To Write A Novel: In what order do you create your world?
  183. I loved my children but I loved BoomFuzzy more | From Quaraun The Insane
  184. My Two Favorite People: FarDarrig and The Baby That Never Should Have Been
  185. Need help writing characters of color | EelKat on racist white readers
  186. Quaraun and the Amazon Adult Filter
  187. Quaraun GhoulSpawn and The Lich Lord's Lover: The Lover's Triangle
  188. Summoner of Darkness: Where Are You Hiding That Horse?
  189. Tired of people who don’t care. :( Tired of the harassment. :(
  190. What would happen if an Elf adopted a Human baby? | Writing Fantasy Books
  191. Page 10 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  192. Page 3 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  193. Page 8 - The Gypsies of Old Orchard Beach
  194. SCRIPT FRENZY 2010: I WON! & Psycho Stalker Attacks
  195. Wristlets, Wrist Bags, Mini Clutch, Cosmetic Bags, and Designer Mini Purses
  196. Writing Your Novel: Do you save chapters as individual files?
  197. Are old AD&D adventures still any use to current players?
  198. Autistics Have Feelings Too & Diverse Books Rant
  199. Be True To You: YouTube Gamers: "Faking" a personality until you make it?
  200. City of The Slushies | Chapter 10 | Quaraun The Insane
  201. HEA in Erotica (Should You Write Happily Ever Afters?)
  202. Stephen King's Thinner Gypsies



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